How about changing an active officer to a civilian?

How about changing an active officer to a civilian? Integration of defense and civilian technologies is a new thing. Many people say that military civilian work is a "golden rice bowl" with higher gold content than civil servants. However, as an old officer who has transferred from the army to the local area and is familiar with military and civilian affairs, I think it is necessary to look at the advantages and disadvantages of changing active officers to civilian affairs.

Military civilian personnel are non-active personnel who use the military establishment to engage in management and professional and technical work, and are divided into management posts and professional and technical posts. Among them, management positions are similar to the leadership positions of civil servants. From high to low, there are nine levels: ministerial deputy, bureau deputy, bureau deputy, department deputy, department deputy, department deputy, clerk, clerk. Professional and technical posts are similar to those of public institutions. Senior posts, intermediate posts and junior posts are divided into 13 grades. There are three main sources of military civilian personnel: open recruitment for the society, direct introduction, and conversion of active servicemen.

For officers in active service, there are three ways out after retirement: one is to transfer to local organs and institutions, the other is to choose their own jobs, and the third is to transfer to military civilian personnel. Which of these three ways is better? It can be generalized and must vary from person to person and from place to place.

If the subject has met the conditions of self-employment, then I think it is more beneficial to choose self-employment than to change from military service to civilian service. First, the resettlement fee is not low, and the deputy regimental cadres can choose their own jobs and get more than 400 thousand at a time. Second, there is little difference between the monthly retirement pension and the salary income after being transferred to civilian service. Even according to the minimum standard, the monthly retirement fee is paid according to 79% of the monthly income of officers at the deputy regiment level, plus regional subsidies, housing subsidies, holiday fees and so on. Issued by the local government, the total amount will not be much lower than the monthly income after being turned into a civilian. Third, freedom, you can also find another job to make money. It is better to find a job for thousands of dollars a month than to change to a civilian job.

If the subject does not meet the qualification conditions for self-employment, the geographical factors should be mainly considered, that is, the comparison should be made between the resettlement place and the post-job place. First of all, consider the separation problem of many active officers, which is the premise of choosing to change jobs or change to civilian service.

Secondly, consider the placement location. If you can move to economically developed areas such as Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Shanghai and the Pearl River Delta, it is definitely better to choose resettlement. It is normal that the salaries of government agencies and institutions in these areas are high, which is more than twice the monthly income of civilian soldiers at the same level. In addition, working in the system, with low power, high social status and wide network resources, makes it easier to take care of family members and raise future generations.

If you can only transfer to economically underdeveloped areas, it is better to choose to transfer to civilian personnel. There is a simple reason. As far as the general situation in inland provinces is concerned, the salary of military civilian personnel is 20% to 35% higher than that of local civil servants at the same level. There are also many opportunities for promotion. Both management positions and professional and technical positions can be promoted to the next level after passing the examination for a certain number of years. There is no problem for most people to retire at the management level or in technical positions.

To sum up, it is good for active duty officers to change jobs, mainly depending on their job level and placement location. We should make choices around these two factors, so as to find the most favorable direction for ourselves.

The civilian service in our army is not long, and it is only three years at most.

It is also a good choice for officers to switch to civilian posts and continue to contribute to army building.

No matter whether you apply for civil servants or change careers, you should not ask civil servants first, but see if you can do it.

If you think that you can continue to muddle along in the army and have an easy life, it doesn't make much sense to be a civilian.

The purpose of changing active duty officers to civilian staff is to optimize the structure of civilian staff, which should not be an excuse for some leaders to solve the contradictions in the army and for individual military cadres to escape the hardships of being officials, let alone pollute the civilian staff.

It's not bad to transfer to colleges and universities for half a year, mainly because I'm close to home and my heart is stable! Changing from active service to civilian service is an appointment system, which can last until retirement. The contract system recruited by Gangshe is different! That is to say, only you can resign voluntarily, and the unit can't dismiss you without special circumstances! But you can't resign voluntarily in the first five years! It is a good choice to transfer to the armed forces department or colleges. If you have more free time, you can spend more time with your family, and the policy of appointment system also allows you to have no worries! The same treatment as active service, in other words, changing the license plate without changing the car, is nothing more than changing from olive green to empty bird blue!

I still have a say in this. I was actually accompanied by my family when the first batch of officers were transferred to civilian posts on 18. After careful consideration, I decided to accept this new policy and carry out relevant procedures.

In fact, when this plan was put forward, many details were vague and uncertain. As a trial, few people can say clearly whether it is necessary, because this is an unprecedented top-down exploration, even including the crowd proposed by the new method. However, it is this step that has brought fresh changes to the existing military system.

Disadvantages after changing jobs:

0 1, the cadre status is far away.

As a fairly good social status symbol, officers have certain social recognition. However, changing to a civilian position means that the previous rank will become a thing of the past, and the achievements and rewards won can only remain in that year, while the current status can only be regarded as a "new employee in the army."

If you are an officer, your identity is guaranteed by legislation, and all rights are clearly defined, which means that you have a strong backing behind you. Turning to a civilian job means losing this layer of armor. I am neither an officer nor a civil servant, nor a profession. At first, I will be a little unwilling and embarrassed.

02, there is no room for growth.

As an officer, with the further satisfaction of years and requirements, there will naturally be a rising channel waiting for him to graduate from the military academy normally until he retires. If there is no accident, the level at that time will not be low. Once you turn to a civilian job, it means that this road comes to an abrupt end. If you are lucky enough to work in a department, you can finally get the treatment of deputy place. That's it, and almost at the top, it will always make people feel lonely.

03, low retirement wages, with reference to local standards.

If an officer retires, the on-the-job retirement salary will be paid in full at 65,438+0,000%, and there will be a large amount of retirement resettlement funds. However, after transferring to a civilian post, retirement will be implemented according to local standards, so the discount will not be one or two. I don't know if there is any resettlement money now, so generally speaking, there is still a big gap in the treatment after retirement.

Advantages after switching to civilian use:

0 1, stable

For example, my family is hesitant about choosing their own jobs or changing civil servants, but after some discussion and analysis, it is still not enough to make them change their track. After agreeing to change jobs, it is possible to go to the job you want and give full play to your abilities and interests. This sense of certainty is very important for people whose values are particularly' stable'.

02. Resources will not be broken.

Some people say that self-employment has high wages and resettlement fees. How nice! If you don't go to work, you won't lose a penny, and you can find another job.

Indeed, this is a fact, which is why many people choose their own jobs. But even if you choose a civil servant, as long as you stay in the system, the connections at the relationship level will not be broken because of your choice. Choosing a job independently is equivalent to telling people around me that I am leaving. As we all know, social networks of interpersonal relationships are often linked by posts.

03. Compared with the same level, starting your own business will increase by 1000-2000 yuan per month.

I have calculated that if two people have the same conditions, one will choose a job and the other will transfer to a civil servant, excluding the resettlement fee, and the monthly salary will be 1000-2000. Many people attach great importance to this. One-time subsidies are generally used for investment or financial management, but they can only be used for daily life every month, and the gap in 2000 is not small.

04. The future treatment will refer to the officers in active service.

Although there is no officer status or even military uniform, most of the first batch of officers who have changed jobs and are currently on the job are treated with reference to active service. This is a great reassurance!

I don't know if there will be any changes in the future, but the policy we know now is to encourage the first batch of officers who voluntarily change jobs.

Change is both an opportunity and a challenge, and it is also the beginning of withdrawal. After all, there are still decades. If there is no peak to climb on the career road, life, study and interest can still ride the wind and waves!

This issue has attracted much attention since the first year of military reform, and there are also many controversies. It is inevitable that this problem will heat up again in the annual job-hopping season. 1. Many comrades who switched jobs to other places also had this consideration, but they didn't take this road in the end. Everyone thinks differently and wants to pursue a different life, so the final decision is different. However, only by understanding the relevant situation as comprehensively as possible will you finally make a choice that suits you.

2. Changing from active service to civilian service belongs to the appointment system, and direct recruitment from local areas belongs to the recruitment system. In my opinion, one of the reasons for changing from active service to this method is to complete the task of disarmament by 300 thousand and reduce the number of overstaffed personnel; The second is to reserve some talents for the army. After all, it is not easy to cultivate for so many years. The reason why the reform of active service is sought after is to some extent because it has achieved the goal of being close to home and having high salary that most people pursue.

Because many people have been separated for many years, it is very troublesome to transfer directly. If you change to work in the armed forces department close to home, at least your family can reunite and take care of your family. Another point is that after the active service is changed, the wages and benefits remain basically unchanged, which has a comparative advantage over civil servants in third-and fourth-tier cities. This is also the reason why some places pursue the conversion from active service to civilian service.

At the same time, there are several factors that need to be considered when transferring from active service to civilian service: First, the change of identity. After all, civilian personnel are not in active service, and their work is led by active service, so their position in the unit is definitely not as good as that of active service. Even if your ability is outstanding, you can't compare with an active officer, because you are just a staff officer. Therefore, if you choose to change jobs, you must adapt to this change of role and identity, don't think too much, and it is most important to do your job well.

Second, there are worries. According to the Civil Service Regulations, civil servants who have been transferred from active service may also be dismissed, which makes many people feel uncertain. Unlike civil servants or officers in active service, even if their abilities are average, as long as they don't make serious mistakes, they will basically not be dismissed and their promotion will be slow. Civilian personnel lack this basic guarantee.

Third, the work intensity is not lower than that of active service. According to the notice issued by the Ministry of National Transportation, the personnel on duty in the armed forces department can only be active officers or civilian personnel, and employees and civil servants recruited by the society cannot be on duty. Originally, due to the reduction of posts, the task of pressing everyone is heavier. Coupled with duty tasks, it can be said that the work intensity is not lower than that in the army. The dream 8-hour working day may not come true for a while.

Fourth, there is limited room for promotion. The highest rank of the civilian staff in the armed forces department is the section chief, that is, the ceiling, and the section chief has only one place pair position, so it is very likely that he will retire after working as a minor course all his life. Compared with the army in this respect, it is incomparable.

Welcome to follow us and learn more about entering the military academy and joining the army. Looking at the new Regulations on Civilian Personnel of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, the following provisions are aimed at the conversion of active servicemen into civilian personnel. You can have a look. Article 16 The army implements a system of recruitment and use of civilian personnel that combines open recruitment for the society, direct introduction and the transformation of active servicemen. Open recruitment of civil servants for the society is suitable for newly recruiting and hiring civil servants with management positions below the division level and civil servants with professional and technical positions below the intermediate level. Direct introduction of civilian personnel is suitable for selecting high-level talents and special professionals. The conversion of active servicemen into civilian personnel is suitable for selecting active servicemen who meet the retirement conditions and intend to retire.

Seventeenth, the highest age for the first time to recruit civilian personnel is:

(a) deputy bureau level or above or professional and technical level 7 or above, under the age of 50;

(2) Having reached the age of 45 if he holds a post at the division level to the division level or a post at the professional level 8 to 10;

(3) 35-year-old who is a deputy at the department level or a post below the eleventh level of professional technology.

Eighteenth, the public recruitment of civil servants, generally in accordance with the planning, information release, qualification examination, unified examination, interview physical examination, political assessment, results publicity, approval and filing procedures. The examination work is organized and implemented by the whole army.

The procedures for directly introducing civilian personnel and active servicemen into civilian personnel shall be implemented with reference to the provisions of the preceding paragraph. Active servicemen who are converted into civilian personnel shall go through the formalities of retirement and resettlement, which shall be organized and implemented by the national department in charge of resettlement of ex-servicemen in conjunction with the relevant departments of the Central Military Commission.

Nineteenth open recruitment and direct introduction of civilian personnel to the society must be examined and approved by the political work department of the unit above the war zone level; The conversion of active servicemen into civilian personnel shall be examined and approved in accordance with the authority for appointment and removal of civilian personnel as stipulated in Article 30 of these regulations.

Thirtieth the determination and adjustment of civilian posts, resignation, retirement and other circumstances need to be appointed or removed, in accordance with the procedures prescribed by the army.

Authority for appointment and removal of civilian posts:

(a) ministerial deputy, professional and technical level 1 to professional and technical level 3 positions, approved by the Central Military Commission;

(two) bureau level to department level posts, professional level 4 to professional level 7 posts, approved by the theater level units;

(3) Positions at the deputy division level, from level 8 of professional technology to level 10 of professional technology shall be approved by units at the corps level;

(four) posts below the deputy division level and below the professional and technical level 11 shall be examined and approved by the division and brigade units.

In terms of treatment guarantee

Article 47 The army shall establish a unified salary system for civilian personnel. The salary of civil servants includes basic salary, allowance and subsidy.

Article 48 The policy of socialization and monetization shall be implemented for civil housing, and the housing accumulation fund, housing subsidy and rent subsidy shall be implemented with reference to the standards determined by the policy of active military officers. To meet the prescribed conditions, the army can issue additional housing subsidies.

Civilian personnel can rent the dormitory of the employer, and those who meet the prescribed conditions can rent apartments.

Article 49. Home leave, transportation allowance, physical examination and children's nursery for civilian personnel shall be implemented in accordance with the relevant provisions of the army.

Article 50 Employers and their civil servants shall participate in basic medical insurance, unemployment insurance and maternity insurance for local employees and pay insurance premiums in accordance with state regulations. Measures for participating in endowment insurance and industrial injury insurance shall be formulated separately.

According to the relevant regulations of the state, the army establishes supplementary insurance for civilian personnel.

Article 51. The army should provide medical assistance to civilian personnel. During military training, non-war military operations and combat support missions, medical care for civilian personnel should be provided to the army free of charge.

Article 52 Compensation for civilian casualties shall be implemented in accordance with the relevant regulations of state functionaries. Measures for preferential treatment of civilian personnel shall be formulated separately.

Pensions and preferential treatments for civilian personnel who participate in military training, non-war military operations and combat support tasks shall be handled with reference to the relevant provisions of the Regulations on Pensions and Preferential Treatment for Soldiers.

Although the new "Regulations on Civilian Personnel of the Chinese People's Liberation Army" has clearly stipulated the contents of the conversion of active servicemen into civilian personnel, there is another provision in the annex to the regulations: Article 61 During the period of military restructuring and reform, the specific measures for the conversion of active servicemen into civilian personnel shall be stipulated separately.

Personal opinion: from active service to civilian service 1. As far as the continuity of work is concerned, it was originally in active service, and the jobs remained basically the same, and the work contents were basically the same. There is not much difficulty in carrying out work and adapting to work.

2. As far as the change of identity is concerned, the responsibilities and obligations of different clothes have not changed greatly, and the requirements of the unit for individuals have not changed much.

3. As far as personal and social identity is concerned, the military-civilian identity needs to be improved, and there is a big personal psychological gap. Differences in the implementation of relevant institutions will lead to loss or disappointment, and concerns about job stability will also increase the difficulty of selection.

Personally, I think active duty personnel seriously consider changing to civilian service.

The transfer of active officers began on 20 18. 20 17 I chose my own job. When leaders talk to our demobilized cadres, some people even look forward to changing jobs. I am a political cadre, and it is said that I can transfer to a civilian position and do political work. However, the actual situation is that there are quotas and age restrictions for changing jobs, and there are also requirements for working places and posts. I'm still working in my original post in my original unit. For example, our warehouse is in a ravine, so I won't change it. I have been a soldier for 20 years, and there is no need to dedicate the rest of my life to the mountains, but this is not the case. In the second year, an instructor in our unit was also replaced by a civilian, but working as a civilian in a military hospital near my hometown is a kind of treatment and a privilege. I understand that it is similar to the transfer of cadres in those years, although it cannot be compared. In 20 18, I transferred to Qingdao, and several comrades in the northeast also moved to Qingdao. They all work in the District Armed Forces Department. This department and post are professional counterparts. Being able to come to Qingdao from the northeast is an improvement for the future of family and children. People have different opinions on the transfer of active duty officers to civilian posts. I want to say my opinion:

First, the benefits of switching from active service to civilian service.

1, compared with active service, civilian work is smoother and more stable. Active service involves promotion, promotion and other specific matters, and the elimination system is highly competitive. Ordinary officers rarely grow into middle and senior cadres, and even less become generals of the Republic of China. Most soldiers should return to the people and the battlefield. Civilian personnel are equivalent to local civil servants or career personnel, and their work is relatively stable, which is not great for personal influence.

2. Civilian personnel are equivalent to changing jobs, but their working relationships and positions are within the military establishment system. It is a very good job for cadres who are familiar with the army. Compared with demobilized cadres, they have less occupational barriers and social pressure, less work pressure and promotion pressure than active officers, and their salary may be different from that of the army. However, compared with demobilized cadres, their advantages are still obvious.

3. As far as I know and master, most of the posts where officers change to civilian posts are important personnel posts, such as the political organs of military hospitals, the political work of armed forces departments and the section chiefs of military divisions. My comrades changed from ravines to cities, from small cities to big cities, from backward cities to developed cities, to civilian posts. I feel that this action trajectory is still developing towards a good trend.

Second, the disadvantages of changing from active service to civilian service

1, the civilian work of officers is stable, but it may be "one post to the old". With the continuous improvement of an officer's position in the army, he will eventually take the leadership position and shoulder a heavier burden. Generally speaking, civilian personnel may not be able to become leaders, which doomed the civilian personnel who changed jobs to feel lonely. In a post, there will be basically no change except for the increase in wages.

2. It is a policy of the transition period of military reform to turn active officers into civilian officers. We can imagine that if civil servants are still working in the political department in their fifties or are responsible for propaganda in the army, can their work efficiency be high? In other words, not only is he not motivated, but the military leaders are constantly rotating, and the long-term stagnation of civilian posts may cause some adverse reactions.

3. Civilian personnel are different from demobilized soldiers. Although it is not included in the military establishment, it must follow the management requirements of the military. The salary is not as high as that of active servicemen, but the requirements are the same, which is quite puzzling. The management of the army is also very different from that of the local government. If they can't adapt, they will feel unhappy for a long time.

Above, I analyzed the advantages and disadvantages of changing from active service to civilian service from two aspects, because I haven't changed either, and I can only judge from some clues in my life, but everyone has a Harlem in his heart. How to treat the problem of officers in active service turning into civilians? Welcome to exchange and discuss in the comment area.

A little silly. Generally speaking, when encouraging self-employment, the conditions for self-employment are the most favorable, and at present it is even more generous to the jaw-dropping degree. Unless you really have too much attachment to the system.

The two are similar. They are all military systems, facing the same working environment, management mode and discipline requirements; Different points. The pressure of active service is great, but the welfare salary is high 10%, and the work pressure of civilian staff is relatively small, so the contract salary is lower than that of active service in a few years.

There is also a placement channel for active duty officers to change jobs to civilian posts; In the workplace, it has an advantage over local recruits; It is relatively stable in terms of treatment guarantee. Overall, it is still a good choice!