ChristianRandPhillips, the host of Good Voice of China, gave a detailed introduction.

Moderator: How many such people came to you after him? Besides the other two we already know, how many people turned themselves in?

ChristianRandPhillips: I think there is a lot of uncertainty, because I also made a special program on this issue in my program called Choice.

After the broadcast of this program, the audience's response was particularly enthusiastic. Some are family members of fugitives, and some claim to be fugitives. How much is true and how much is joking? I think there are many uncertainties, but I often get some particularly inexplicable calls in the office. When a phone call comes in, two or three words usually pop up, go to the Philippines? I said yes, who are you? Don't ask me who I am. Tell me if Guo Haijun's case has come to a conclusion. I said no, it was still in the process of trial, so I hung up. People often speculate, such as friends of college students, some of our in-service teachers, and some listeners of all levels and ages are paying attention to Guo Haijun's fate. He may ask in another way, ChristianRandPhillips, we are all very concerned about Guo Haijun, whether there is a verdict in this case, and what will be the result, so there will be no such phone call. So I think at least they are not exposed and unpredictable.

Compere: Do you lose patience when you receive such calls frequently?

ChristianRandPhillips: No, I think it's your job. If you have no patience with your work, you may not be able to do it well. If this job requires your patience, we can only sharpen our patience and become more patient, instead of saying that I can't do it at last. My impatience is undoubtedly denying what you are doing. I love my job very much, so I'm not bored.

Moderator: You and these three suspects who turned themselves in, the first day you met him was the day you turned yourself in. Did you have face-to-face contact with the other two before they turned themselves in?

ChristianRandPhillips: No.

Compere: Use your voice and language to impress him to do this?

ChristianRandPhillips: Yes. The third one will be a little special. According to his original words, I used to call him Lao Yu, that is, 18 Jiangxi native Lao Yu who surrendered to Beijing. His situation is very special. He and I watched a talk show on Qianjiang City Channel of Zhejiang Satellite TV, but we never watched it from the beginning. He watched a 50-minute talk show for about 30 minutes and watched it for 20 minutes. He said he didn't see it clearly. He's special. He found my phone number, contacted me through the director of this program, and then began to listen to my program. This is special. But I think it boils down to never meeting, at least I haven't met the three of them.

Moderator: You just talked about your career. A netizen named Jia Jia asked, he said that you are persuading more and more fugitives. Will you take this as your career?

ChristianRandPhillips: I think it should be said that if these people know me or find me, they must first know me and know me. They are my audience, which is inextricably linked with my career. I think our audience should be divided into different groups, including college friends, teachers, old people who are studying, working and retiring, and some of them may be these special groups. These special groups include prisoners, including these fugitives. If they are my audience, they will be closely related to my work. This is not to say that I treat this as a job every day, but from beginning to end.

Moderator: Does your family know that you have been dealing with fugitives 13 days?

ChristianRandPhillips: At the beginning of the first call, they knew that my family also showed concern and care for me. Later, I felt that this incident might make them more worried and concerned after knowing it, so I basically kept it from them when I answered the phone later.

Compere: You dare not let them know?

ChristianRandPhillips: I didn't let them know, because this kind of communication between the host and the audience, or this kind of trust between them, may sometimes be incomprehensible from the perspective of a bystander, and only you put yourself in it. You have communicated with him, and you are sure of him. I think I will know what is dangerous and what is not, but you can tell you this simply. You're sure your first reaction is how dangerous and terrible it is, but if you talk to a friend on the phone for 13 days, I'm afraid you won't feel terrible after talking a lot.

Moderator: In the media reports, everyone thinks that your experience is even legendary. Don't you think it's strange in retrospect? Why are they all looking for you at the same time? Why are so many radio stations doing such programs, but we don't seem to know that similar things have happened? Do you think it's accidental?

ChristianRandPhillips: I think this topic is a bit big. I want to start with the first person I convinced, he is a radio fan. He not only listened to the program of Voice of China of China People's Broadcasting Station, but also listened to local programs in the place where he fled. Maybe it's because our program time period is relatively late. In some nights, the program may basically end at 10 to 12, while we end at 0 to 1: 30, which is equivalent to a one-day handover, and the time period is relatively long. During this period, some radio stations have stopped broadcasting live programs at this time, and most of them are replaying some fine products or playing songs or consulting programs, while our programs are relatively rich in content.

The other one has a lot to do with the form of our program. Coincidentally, Guo Haijun listened to our program from the first day, and he never gave up after that. What I do is to teach you how to choose at the crossroads of life. He thinks you are a good host. For such a difficult multiple-choice question, you all know that this choice is wrong and you should move towards that choice. You must have your own uniqueness, and he may have decided it.

Another, the night talk show has its particularity, that is, the one-on-one communication of the host is easier for the other party to recognize and trust, that is to say, you don't know his existence, and he will invisibly regard you as a friend in his life and a trusted friend.

The police in Beijing Xicheng revealed to the media that ChristianRandPhillips, the host of the china national radio program, who had twice persuaded the suspect of the murder case, successfully persuaded a fugitive suspect to surrender again on the Mid-Autumn Festival. (September 20, Beijing News)

In less than a year, relying on the identity of a radio host, ChristianRandPhillips successfully persuaded three suspects to surrender themselves, which can't be said to be the success of ChristianRandPhillips. However, as a radio host, the occurrence of "ChristianRandPhillips Phenomenon" also calls for the moral influence mechanism of society.

Goethe once said: "Whether punishing people or caring for them, we must treat people as human beings." Different from severe punishment and severe law, "moral influence" is essentially a process of promoting good and restraining evil. The strategy of "calling conscience with sincerity" is used to awaken the inner conscience of suspects and "reform people" from the inner nature of people.

The reason why these suspects choose to go to the Philippines is actually related to the lack of "moral influence" in society. But because of my guilty conscience, I dare not speak, and no one said it. Only in the face of ChristianRandPhillips, who "only heard his voice, but didn't see him", did they really dare to express their feelings. Psychologically, these people are more sensitive and pay more attention to self-esteem. Moreover, although Yu Zhaoming, who is at large, is tired of absconding, he is still hesitant to bring him to justice. ChristianRandPhillips used his "art of education" to make them finally abandon the darkness and embark on the "bright road" of surrender.

On Thursday, March 24th, 2005, the host of china national radio's Night Flight in China prepared for the live broadcast of the program as usual. The program will be broadcast at 0: 10. Half an hour before the live broadcast, a mobile phone message caught ChristianRandPhillips's attention.

ChristianRandPhillips: On March 24th, I should be in the studio. It happened that day, and I was going to the office to get a piece of information. It was four minutes late that day, and then I turned on the computer conveniently. The computer on my desk also has a computer platform, that is, as soon as the short message platform is refreshed, his short message will jump out. At 23: 34, it came from Xianyang, Shaanxi. He said to Fei Jie, I also want to take the road of loneliness. Loneliness is loneliness. Don't tell anyone, standing is standing, it is temporary.

At that time, it was very close to the live broadcast, and ChristianRandPhillips entered the live broadcast room without thinking much. ChristianRandPhillips has reason to say that there is another one. On February 4th this year, ChristianRandPhillips received a short message from a man named Gu San in Foshan, Guangdong, when he was hosting the program "Night Sailing in China". The short message read: "I am an escaped prisoner, and I am at the crossroads of my life. I hope to remind you. " Gu San, formerly known as Gu Haijun, was on the run for murder in 12, during which he was extremely confused and panicked. After a telephone conversation with ChristianRandPhillips for 13 days, Gu Haijun chose to return to Beijing to surrender himself. Will something similar happen this time?

ChristianRandPhillips: Then after I finished the program, I went back to the office, so I wrote down his mobile phone number and went home as usual.

After returning home, ChristianRandPhillips always doubted the authenticity of this short message. Because after the program about Gu Haijun was broadcast, she received many text messages, most of which were pranks.

ChristianRandPhillips: Then I got up at 10 the next morning, so I took out my mobile phone and sent him a short message. I said hello, I'm ChristianRandPhillips. Why take the lonely road? Question mark, I am exploring, or I am speculating. Is my question very (framed)? Why are you so good?

An hour later, ChristianRandPhillips received a reply from the other party.

ChristianRandPhillips: He said Sister ChristianRandPhillips, but he always used that name in front of me. I wrote a biography of Song Wu. I saw it then. Oh, that's interesting. What can I say?

ChristianRandPhillips quickly sent a short message back to the other party.

ChristianRandPhillips: I said it is a modern society now. I said it is not easy to play a historical figure. How did you become Song Wu? I said you are Song Wu, or other characters in Song Wu's biography, or this way of asking questions. I didn't ask him directly, and then he said, well, why don't you understand me? You can't understand what he said.

The other party is finally impatient.

ChristianRandPhillips: That's it, that is, the two of us have always been like this. Later, he couldn't hold back. He couldn't help it. He is in a hurry. He texted me and said, Sister Fei, can I have a phone call with you? He felt that the message was not clear.

Despite his doubts, ChristianRandPhillips was in no hurry. ChristianRandPhillips, a native of Sichuan, graduated from the History Department of Fujian Normal University. She became an openly recruited host of 1997 Fujian Economic Radio Station. She came to china national radio on 200 1 and worked in Urban Forest and People's Spring and Autumn. At the beginning of 2005, she began to host China at Night. For eight years, she has been engaged in editing and hosting emotional programs at night.

ChristianRandPhillips: After losing the news, I think this person is so strange. What the hell did he do? This is the question mark, and I still haven't opened it. It's just whether he really has something similar to Gu San.

But I waited all night, but I didn't get a call from Yuan Bingtao.

ChristianRandPhillips: I have never been particularly anxious, saying that I must find out what's wrong with you. How are you? No, I always feel that I am not in a hurry, but that you are in a hurry.

The next day was Saturday, and they exchanged several short messages. In this process, I learned that the other party's name was Yuan, so I quickly made an inquiry through the public security organs. While waiting for a reply from the public security organ, ChristianRandPhillips's cell phone rang.

ChristianRandPhillips: Then it's about Saturday morning 10, and it's almost 1 1. He called me because he happened to be at home at that time. I looked at it, oh, this is the number, and then I answered it. That's a strong Shaanxi accent. Sister ChristianRandPhillips, he is me from beginning to end, and only in Shaanxi dialect, very. He wouldn't listen to me. He said, do you understand? I said, I understand. I said, when do you think it is convenient for you to talk? He said I would call you at or after eight o'clock in the evening, and I said it would be expensive for you to call me. I said, why don't I call you He said, no, no, he said, where can the money be spent? I hung up when I called you, about three or four minutes. After answering this phone call, I feel that my doubts about him seem to be less.

At nine o'clock in the evening, Yuan's phone rang.

ChristianRandPhillips: After the phone call, my name is still Sister ChristianRandPhillips, so I just call him Guo Dong. Then I asked him, I said how old you are, and he said I was 35. I said, oh, I'm 35 years old. I said he is a very mature man, he is very happy and generous. From the background sound of his phone call, I can hear that he is in a very empty place. It was particularly strange at the time. Why does he speak in such a loud voice? He said that he was going to talk to me at this time in the evening. He left the place where he planted pear trees for others and found a cemetery in an unknown place. He called me from the cemetery. He said that no one could hear him at this time. His voice is because he is buried underground. Later, I was communicating with him. I understand that he can't talk loudly with others for too long, or that he can't say what he wants to say in his heart very loudly, and find a suitable object to say it. He said to Fei Jie, I am so miserable that I can't even cry. I said why, I am a big man, if I shed tears, people will feel very strange and will arouse others' doubts. I said, what if you want to cry?

During the whole call, ChristianRandPhillips seldom cut in, mainly listening.

ChristianRandPhillips: Then I was not allowed to talk, that is, I was eager to keep all my words in my heart, and I wanted to find someone. Oh, I found someone who listens to me. I want to tell you that I asked him what I thought of your biography of Song Wu, and I said what kind of biography of Song Wu you wrote. He said my wife was restless and she had an outsider. He said I was angry and killed that man. I asked him what you are doing now. He said I was planting pear trees. I said, oh, I said we ate pears. Because of his accent, he said yes, I am a good farmer. I said, oh, I said you are good at planting fruit trees. Yes, I am very good at planting fruit trees. My skills are very good. I said that the pear blossoms are in bloom now, and he said that he would fight again now.

The first call lasted more than forty minutes. Yuan also told me that he bought this mobile phone for contact and never called anyone else. In the next few days, their phones kept ringing. Yuan told me that Yuan was not his real name, but in fact his name was Yuan Bingtao.

ChristianRandPhillips: Even he told me, he told Fei Jie that I heard Gu Haijun's voice on the radio. I guess he is over 40 years old. I think he turned himself in very late. I said why, if he had turned himself in earlier, everyone would have settled. He will be out at 12 soon. Isn't his life very good now? I said, oh, I said Gu San is only 30 this year.

Then the conversation between them began to discuss the issue of surrender in detail.

ChristianRandPhillips: He said, can you come to Xi? Can you accompany me? You can take me in, and then you can go back. I didn't explicitly refuse, because I have to coordinate with the police on such matters, so I think I have to say that in fact, he just wants someone to accompany him, because I don't think I need to ask in detail about such matters. For him, he felt that he was going the way of Gu San. Gu San found a host who he liked to listen to and regarded her as a friend. Then I should find a friend, too He can't make up his mind. I thought it was timid or a natural fear to surrender to the local police alone in Shaanxi, so I thought I would say that he just wanted someone to accompany him.

At 6 o'clock in the morning on March 3 1, ChristianRandPhillips, who was still sleeping, received a phone call from Yuan Bingtao again.

ChristianRandPhillips: I said, where are you? I crouched in the grass. I said, why are you squatting in the grass again The cultivator got up early and called me in the grass. I decided to say so. I finished the pesticide for the second time, but I couldn't do it for the third time. It is too late. I can't wait any longer I want to turn myself in. I said, what should I do? He said that I would come to Beijing.

After this call, ChristianRandPhillips lost contact with Yuan Bingtao again. At 9 am on April 1, ChristianRandPhillips's cell phone rang again.

ChristianRandPhillips: At nine o'clock, my mobile phone rang. I looked at the landline phone in Beijing, and then I heard that familiar voice. I told Fei Jie that I had arrived in Beijing, and then we started to make an appointment to meet. I said, how can I know you? So I went to your reception room and raised my mobile phone. My mobile phone is out of money, but I think it may be ok to call in. Can you answer it? Then if it rings, it's me with the phone. If it doesn't ring, look at me with my mobile phone. That is me. I said, oh, what's this called? Tell me what you look like.

More than an hour after the call, accompanied by two female colleagues, ChristianRandPhillips met Yuan Bingtao in the reception room of china national radio at 10: 30 in the morning. In order to see ChristianRandPhillips as soon as possible, Yuan Bingtao visited four places one day and one night before coming to Beijing.

ChristianRandPhillips: Because after countless such phone calls, I feel as if I am not a particularly strange person, not at all. He is wearing a liberated rubber overshoes, green rubber overshoes, dark blue trousers, a long gray dress, and a worn denim bag. His hands are covered with mud, that is, mud under his nails. You didn't bring the police. I said you think I should bring the police, don't you? That's what he said on the phone. He said I was too worried to see you. I said why you said that some of you value your life very much. He thinks we will consider my safety. I will look at him differently. I'm afraid I won't see you. You didn't bring the police, no, it was very relaxed, because he came here in the hope that someone could accompany him into the public security bureau, which I should do. Such a person's promise to him is just like his promise to me. I told him that you were worried about your family for a day and a night. He said you were worried, and I will do what I promised you. Then we found a teahouse.

1 In April, about 1 in the afternoon, the police from the Criminal Investigation Detachment of Beijing Xicheng Public Security Bureau rushed to the teahouse. When Yuan Bingtao saw the policeman, he immediately stood up from his seat and stretched out his hands. /kloc-0: 30, ChristianRandPhillips accompanied Yuan Bingtao to the Xicheng Public Security Bureau to surrender. Some people say that Yuan Bingtao and Gu Haijun surrendered to Beijing because of ChristianRandPhillips's language charm. But ChristianRandPhillips thinks this is only one aspect.

ChristianRandPhillips: I think in my eyes, he is a listener first. He is one of our listeners. Then he may have committed a crime for some reason of his own. Those who have this kind of criminal mentality, or those who have criminal experience, are sometimes very fragile inside. At this time, to some extent, he acted like a child. At this time, what he needs most is that others can care about him like children. He needs this kind of affection. In this case, he can't communicate with his family, so if a friend can do this, I think it will be good for him and make him feel that the society is still warm.

On April 9, 2005 18, at Beijing West Railway Station, Beijing police handed over the suspect Yuan Bingtao to Shaanxi police. ChristianRandPhillips also accompanied Yuan Bingtao to Shaanxi. According to the police, Yuan Bingtao killed Chen Mou in Liquan County, Shaanxi Province on 200 1+0 1 and fled for nearly four years. According to judicial procedures, he will be taken back to the crime scene for trial.

ChristianRandPhillips: The beard has grown. It hasn't been shaved, has it?

Yuan Bingtao: But they all took care of me in prison.

ChristianRandPhillips: They all take good care of you.

Yuan Bingtao: Very caring.

ChristianRandPhillips: OK, we can enter the station now.

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