There are more and more turtles. Why go abroad?

In recent years, there are often news that some "returnees" find it difficult to find a job and their starting salary is low.

The "aura" of returnees has changed from dazzling to eclipsing, and people's attitude towards returnees has gradually changed from envy to calm treatment.

Some people can't help asking: why do you choose to study abroad when the aura of returnees has faded and the competitiveness is gradually almost the same as that of local college graduates?

Yes, I think this problem is really worth thinking about.

So, what do people who have been there say?

1, you can learn real skills by studying abroad.

Zhihu users: Yulu Hefeng (t kurs studied in Leipzig, Germany. That year I took the college entrance examination and was admitted to Fudan Medical College. )

German education level is higher than China's ... Why care about turtles and gilding? Is it valuable? What really matters is what you have learned.

I don't understand why turtles give up studying abroad because they are not valued.

Did the first generation of people who studied abroad, such as Mr. Ji Xianlin, ever think about gilding and coming back? If so, why did he choose Tuholovan, which has no employment prospects?

My high school is a foreign language school in Shanghai, and I went to Germany to study the dsd program. What is the dsd project? That is, while learning German, I completed the three-year basic culture course in senior high school, and the college entrance examination passed the score line of 2 1 1.

Is it difficult? Of course it's hard. In a week's cultural class, English class is 3 less than other classes, and Chinese math class is less 1. At the same time, it catches up with the 3+3 reform of Shanghai college entrance examination, and German class is one week 1 1. Before the dsd exam, my brain was still walking and memorizing things by myself, and I bumped into my junior. ...

The highest ranking of German schools in the world is only Munich University (40th), and the rankings of all universities are basically between 200 and 500 (because there is no so-called elite university in Germany).

Now I am in Germany, holding hot tea, writing and writing, and I can't help thinking. Is it worth it? Worth it.

German preparatory courses, such as Leipzig where I live, have an admission rate of only 12% and a successful graduation rate of only 60%.

While reviewing high school knowledge, preparatory courses need to learn many things that freshmen in China can't touch.

In college, foreigners' on-time graduation rate of 40% and comprehensive graduation rate of 60% are also urging you to learn real talents instead of muddling along. This is a country where universities cannot be confused with the past.

As for the job opportunities after graduation, is it an advantage to return to China? Is this question important? You learn ten times as much as others! You are not a college student who only knows google. This is your advantage, and you won't regret it in the coffin board.

2. The education level is higher than that in China.

Zhihu users: Tatsumi in the sea.

Because the value of studying abroad is not in the aura.

Whether it is blind worship of returnees a few years ago or belittling returnees now, these views are irrational, blind, excessively pursuing efficiency and ignoring fairness.

As far as students are concerned, just looking at their academic performance, in my opinion, the average level of top50 universities in the United States is around 985, and the domestic level is 2 1 1. Students are an excellent group. But as far as their own qualifications are concerned, good students in good universities in China are not bad at all.

The gap lies in education and environment.

As far as the computer software industry I am engaged in is concerned, American companies rarely have specific requirements for programming languages.

The company uses java. Do you only know cpp or C Sharp? No problem. The interview was good. I'll know when I come. The company uses python, and you only know java? No problem, the interview algorithm is well answered and the basic knowledge is understood. Learn when you come. Almost all my colleagues in my group are java, and they soon got used to python.

What about China? Even in big companies like Ali, Tencent and Baidu, many interview questions I see are focused on the language level.

To tell the truth, if you are not doing a job that requires special performance or makes full use of linguistic reasoning, you can look it up directly on the Internet when using content that requires a lot of memory. Why do you ask the interviewer to master these things that are probably unnecessary?

Because that's what universities teach.

In order to cooperate with the disgusting exam, our textbooks are afraid of missing any details that may be given in the exam. The text is exquisite and rigorous, but it is boring to read and the focus is not clear. Due to the insertion of a large number of knowledge details, the knowledge organization is not systematic and the causal context is not clear.

Moreover, an eternal core of the computer science industry is that a certain technology appears to solve a certain pain point, and only when there is demand can it develop. However, our textbooks will never explain what pain points object-oriented solves and what templates are used for. Why do we need const and why should we separate the header file from the source file?

Just take something out and tell you, just remember, and the exam will come out.

Then our teacher was kidnapped by scientific research and office politics all day and had to spare no effort to follow the script.

In the United States, textbooks are not funny, polar bears step on switches and so on, and they don't get into details. We have one course a semester, and we have to use html, css, js, python, angular, mysql and database in a mess. In China? Probably buy a thick book, and then memorize all the styles of css in one semester.

Of course, American universities are very tired, too. I only have four classes a semester, but I sleep until almost two o'clock every day. Because the homework is difficult and the project is difficult, you can't copy it yet Cheating is not only about exams, but also about homework.

We may have the best students in the world, but unfortunately our education system is really lazy.

3. Valuable life experiences

Zhihu users: Silicon Valley IT fatso

The first is the open immigration model. It's the worst thing to get on the American express train early. You can live a mediocre but beautiful life.

The second is to learn knowledge and culture, which is a very bookish answer. Some people feel "so many" when they see more returnees, yes, because it is impossible to return to China because they have studied really well. Sampling problem.

The third is an educational experience. Being educated abroad is just like an old college diploma. There is nothing wrong with it, but it is not easy to be looked down upon. Besieged city is well said, this thing is just like chicken pox. If you don't study abroad, you won't have resistance. If you leave, you are immune.

Fourth, studying abroad is easier than taking domestic exams. The national college entrance examination and postgraduate entrance examination are actually quite difficult, so you can take advantage of it if you have a relationship at home. Now American undergraduate students are fully liberalized in order to make money. Studying abroad is much easier than taking exams at home, and parents in big cities don't have much money.

The fifth is life experience. Sudden independence and sudden arrival in a brand-new culture and society will often inspire young people and cause a leap in life. It is boring and frustrating to stay in a city, a place and with your parents all the time.

4. If you have a heart, you will gain something in any environment.

Why do people have to study abroad? Although my master's degree and doctor's degree were both studied abroad, I didn't really think about it.

People always move out of the old saying, "Read thousands of books and take Wan Li Road." But it is very important to think carefully about what books to read and how to read them; Similarly, how to take the Wan Li Road also affects your thinking.

There is no denying that more and more people from China study abroad every year, but have you really learned anything?

I once met a young lady from Chongqing who was studying in Britain on the plane. I have never heard of the English city where she lives, so I am a little sorry to ask, "Are there any other China people where you go to school?" Little sister proudly said, "China people? Our dormitory on that floor belongs to Chongqing, and we play hot pot every day! "

It is certainly happy to eat hot pot with my family abroad, but on the other hand, what is the significance of studying abroad in this case?

I have been studying and working in Europe for several years, and I used to be a student. In fact, I totally understand that people like to stay with their compatriots: this is the most natural feeling, not only for China, but also for Indians, such as West Renye Fang in China.

But if that's the case, it's up to everyone to really learn something from his time in a foreign country and then integrate it into his life. I think if you have the heart to observe and experience, you will gain something in any environment.

The simplest harvest level is in the sensory experience: the houses in this country are built like this, and the people in this country eat and wear like this.

The higher level gains are at the knowledge level: the history, culture and political system of this country. ...

A deeper gain is to see the differences between different cultures and understand them.

You can learn a lot from studying in the United States, and you can also learn a lot from studying in North Korea (don't laugh, I really know people who study in North Korea).

Tocqueville traveled all over the United States and wrote On American Democracy. Adam johnson traveled to North Korea for two weeks and wrote the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel The Son of the Orphan Master.

However, if the mind is closed, no matter how many places you have been, it is just that the body has left many photos of the trip here, and the mind is still standing still.

Of course, everyone's life has their own way. As said in The Fantasy Journey of the Shepherd Boy, some people are born shepherds and travel everywhere. Some people are bakers, guarding their hometown.

Happiness has no certain rules, as long as it suits you. No matter where you go, your stomach is the most patriotic, and there is nothing wrong with it.