Why did two 70-year-old people in Shaanxi compete for a mountain forest for 7 years?

Wang Laohan's ancestors in Shangzhou District left him a forest, which he has managed for decades. 20 10, another contract certificate suddenly appeared when the forest land was confirmed. Two contract certificates in a mountain forest made it impossible to confirm the right, and two 70-year-old people involved in the dispute fought for 7 years without results.

Wang Laohan: "I have a forest contract certificate and have been in charge of trees."

On the afternoon of March 20th, at the home of Wang Laohan, 7 1 year-old in Yueliangwan Village, Xieyang Town, Shangzhou District, the old man was very excited when he mentioned the forest, and took out a land and real estate ownership certificate issued by his ancestors. "You see the specific four addresses of the forest land are marked on it (with the names of neighboring villagers as the address), indicating that this forest land was ours when my great-grandfather was there. now

Wang Laohan said that this forest land is located in a ravine in a neighboring village, specifically called Yangpogou, and the forest land 16 mu. In the 1980s, this woodland group was registered under the names of him and his brother. Judging from the two forest contract certificates provided by Wang Laohan, half of the forest land of 1997 and 1996 is registered under the name of Wang Laohan's son and the other half is registered under the name of Wang Laohan's brother. Both of them were stamped with the seals of the government and Murakami, and the four addresses of the woodland were clarified.

Wang Laohan said that it happened on 20 10, when the forest right certificate was renewed. Ren Laohan from the neighboring village applied for the ownership of this woodland, which surprised him. I didn't expect Ren Laohan to have a forest contract certificate. "I suspect that Ren Laohan forged the forest contract certificate issued by the Ministry of Materials and Forestry."

Ren Laohan: "I also have a forest contract certificate, and the procedures are legal."

Are there really two contractors in the same mountain forest, and both of them have certificates? Then the reporter found the 79-year-old Ren Laohan, who took out the forest contract certificate of Yangpogou. This certificate was issued by 1982, and it was also stamped with the official seals of the government and Murakami at that time, indicating that there were Yangpogou (four places of woodland were marked with small place names), but the area of woodland was 19 mu.

Ren Laohan said that before the land reform, this woodland may have belonged to Wang Laohan, but later this forest was owned by the collective, this forest was owned by the village collective, and then it was owned by the individual. According to the normal procedure, he was assigned this forest by the village.

For the two old people, there are forest contract certificates, and the village cadres in the two villages are also confused. Zhang Zhijun, the document of Huangbaicha Village where Ren Laohan is located, said that Ren Laohan applied for Yangpogou forest land when the forest land was confirmed on 20 10, and later Wang Laohan from the neighboring village also said it was his. Both of them have forest contract certificates, because the ownership cannot be determined, so far this forest land has not been zoned out. Wang Xing, director of Moon Bay Village, also said that they had no way to clarify their responsibilities.

In order to compete for the ownership of forest land, Wang Laohan has repeatedly reported to Murakami and the town government and the forestry department. After understanding, the forestry station of the town government said that it has no right to invalidate the forest contract certificate. After investigation by the forestry department of Shangzhou District, Shangluo City, it was initially put forward that the forest land should be divided equally, but the two old people disagreed and both thought it was a muddled account awarded by the forestry department. This problem has not been solved so far.

Forestry Department: Maybe there was a mistake when issuing the certificate.

The reporter from Huashang Daily learned that the reform of China's forest right system has roughly gone through three stages. During the period of land reform, the land certificate shall prevail, and the undeveloped land shall be mainly catalogued; After the land reform, the government issued a forest contract certificate; Later, in 2008, the forest right system reform officially issued the forest right certificate. Regarding the forest right dispute between Wang Laohan and Ren Laohan, the person in charge of the Forestry Administration Unit of Shangzhou District Forestry Bureau said that it mainly depends on the basis for issuing the forest right certificate, generally speaking, it will be issued later. The main problem lies in the transfer of forest right from private ownership to collective ownership, and then to individual ownership, which leads to the situation of two owners in one place. No matter how the forest right system is reformed, private property will not be occupied. The person in charge of the forest reform unit of Shangzhou Forestry Bureau said that the problem may lie in the link of collective allocation of forest land to private individuals. Maybe there was a mistake when issuing the certificate. They have investigated several times, and the specific reasons are not clear. They will contact the Xieyang town government to coordinate the handling.