If you don't pay the property fee, the property doesn't open a gas certificate.

"I paid 5200 before, and now I have to pay more than 1000. How much do I have to pay before the property can issue a certificate to pick up natural gas for us? " These days, the owners of Huachengyuan Community in Chineydy, Xiangqiao Road, a new industrial zone, are talking about the requirement to pay the property fee before they can prove that they have received natural gas. In order to use natural gas as soon as possible, netizen @ Mu Yi _ reported to "Evening News Sister" (micro-signal lzrbwj) and Liubao Rights Protection Brother (micro-signal lzwbwq). In the past few days, reporters have visited this matter.

Chineydy huachengyuan community

Do I have to pay the property fee first to open a gas license?

654381October 9, the reporter came to the community and saw that the community was a high-rise building with gas pipelines installed on the walls. The notice and announcement of gas installation are posted on the bulletin board on the first floor.

The residential gas pipeline project has been completed.

"The road to gas in the community is very bumpy. Since 20 17, we have been cooking and bathing with bottled liquefied gas. " Residents of the community said that as early as 20 17, the owners were required to pay the gas installation fee of 2,600 yuan per household before they could pay the keys to the new house. But after a few years, I stopped pretending. In 2020, Liuzhou Chineydy Property Service Co., Ltd., which serves the community, asked the owners to raise the gas installation fee of 2,600 yuan again on the grounds of offsetting the two-year property fee. But today, the money has been paid and the gas pipeline installation project has been completed, but the ventilation has been delayed.

2065438+2006 residents pay the gas installation fee certificate.

At the end of last month, the property management company posted the Notice of Community Ventilation, requiring the owners to re-sign the property service contract with the company, and settle the related expenses before the end of 20021and the expenses received in advance in March 65,438+0-March 2022 before issuing the ventilation certificate. After seeing the notice, the owners "exploded the pot", and everyone said: "Now it is only one step away from ventilation, but it is' stuck' by the property company."

Notice of gas installation issued by the property

On the same day, the reporter came to the property office and saw that some residents were paying property fees and getting ventilation certificates. A landlord said that he paid a one-time fee of 15 months, that is, 202 1 plus a property management fee of 1 for the whole year. In February and March this year, the total amount was1* *1700 yuan. The owner explained three reasons why he didn't pay the property fee last year: the house was postponed before, and the liquidated damages were never paid; 20 17 After the house was handed over, the property ownership certificate has not been obtained so far; There is also the poor service of property management companies. "But is it reasonable to ask the property to pay the property fee first and then open the wind?" In this regard, the owners have raised questions.

Property: the property fee is collected in advance and used to replace residential equipment.

Regarding the residents' doubts, Ms. Ding, the person in charge of the property company, admitted that before the house was handed over, the residents paid a gas installation fee of 2,600 yuan per household, and some of the receipts were stamped with the official seal of the property company.

"But this money belongs to the house and has nothing to do with the property company." Ms. Ding said that the company entered the community in May, 20 17, and filed for bankruptcy in September, 20 19 due to financial problems, but the Entrusted Installation Contract for Residential Gas Pipeline Project signed by the company and the gas company should continue to be performed.

Proposal issued by the property company

In order to do a good job in the follow-up work of gas installation in residential areas, the property management company issued the Proposal for Gas Installation in Chineydy Huachengyuan in 2020 and the Consultation Form. According to the proposal, anyone who agrees to pay the property fee of 2600 yuan again (only for gas pipeline installation, with special funds) can deduct the property fee for two years, and the deduction time is from May 20 18 to April 2020. After collection, more than 290 households in the community signed the consultation form. "This gas installation fee was paid by residents voluntarily." Ms. Ding said that under the supervision of the whole process of the community, the property management company and the owner's representative promoted the installation of the gas pipeline project in the community.

In 2020, the property company will collect and install gas inquiry tables from residents.

As for why the owners are required to pay the property fee of 202 1 and 1-3 in advance this year, Ms. Ding introduced that there are more than 300 households in the community, and only 10 households have paid the property fee. In order to better solve the problem of property fee, the property management company changed the property fee from RMB/m2 to RMB/m2, hoping that the owner would pay off the property fee of 202 1 year, and pay the property fee of RMB/m2 in advance for 1-3 months, and the property fee of 3 months in advance is mainly used to replace the paralyzed monitoring equipment in the community.

Proof that residents paid the gas installation fee in 20021year.

"The house went bankrupt and the community did not apply for a real estate license. It is understandable that the owner has grievances. " Ms. Ding said that in order to improve the facilities in the community, the property management company has been paying for it and the management of the community is getting better and better. The property management company hopes to cooperate with the owner Qixin to manage the community well.

65438+1October18th, the reporter learned from the property management company that there are 294 households in the community that meet the ventilation conditions. At present, 183 households have paid the property fee and have been ventilated.

Lawyer: The property cannot refuse to issue a certificate on this ground.

The reporter learned from the gas company that the gas installation contract in this community was signed by Fang Kai and the gas company. In order to ensure the safe ventilation of users, the staff of the gas company will go to the site for inspection according to the ventilation certificate issued by the property, and ventilation can only be carried out after the conditions are met.

Then, is it reasonable for the property company to ask the owner to pay and collect the property fee in advance on the grounds of opening the gas card until it is paid? Lawyer Huang Hua, legal adviser of Liuzhou Daily and Guangxi Huashang Law Firm, believes that there are two legal relationships in this case. One is the property service relationship between the owner and the property management company. If the owner refuses to pay the property fee, the property management company can bring a lawsuit to the court; Second, in the contract signed between the property company and the gas company, if it is not stated that "the gas certificate can only be opened after paying the property fee", the property company refuses to open the certificate on this ground, and the owner can bring a lawsuit to the court.