Lying in the car incident

The car lies in front of the owner's car to prevent the owner from driving into a community without parking spaces.

On June 5438+February, 2009, the car was lying. A post about Jinan's "lying car" with photos spread in various community forums. In the photo, a man is lying or sitting in front of the front of a silver car, and there are many onlookers. 65438+February 65438+April, the reporter came to the incident community: Shi Sheng Huacheng, High-tech Zone. "He is lying in front of our owner's vehicle and is not allowed to enter the community." According to Ms. Xu, the owner at the scene that day, the protagonist of the photo is a staff member of Huacheng Community Property Company. According to Ms. Xu, on the evening of February 7, 65438, in order to prevent the owners without parking spaces from driving into the community, the staff member directly squatted in front of an owner's car, and the angry owner blocked the car at the door of the community. Things continued until about 10 that night. "Finally, the owner turned on the electronic lever and drove home." The next day, the "lying car" named by the owner was uploaded to the online forum with the whole incident. On February 8 and 9, 65438, there were scenes of parking and blocking doors. The owner broke the electronic pole at the gate and the vehicle entered the community.

Now, after three days of confrontation, it has finally subsided temporarily under the mediation of many parties. "We hope to negotiate with the property by forming a representative group," said an owner representative. The person in charge of the property department said that there is a lot of pressure now. What is the reason for the tit-for-tat between the owner and the property company? "1 1 At the end of the year, the property posted a notice saying that the monthly rent of an underground parking space is too expensive, and from 65438+February 7, the owner's car will not be allowed to go home without renting a parking space, which is too inappropriate." 65438+February 65438+May, a car owner who was about to drive out told the story.

It is also known that this kind of "lying car" has not been seen in the community at present. "'Car Lying' seems to be no longer working in the community. I haven't seen it for several days." For the owners of Shi Sheng Huacheng, "car lying down" is still a hot topic.

The shopkeeper questioned >>

The monthly rent of underground parking spaces in 260 yuan is a bit high. What is the basis of real estate pricing?

12 14 In the afternoon, in Shi Sheng Huacheng Community, various notices issued by the property were posted at the door of the unit. An owner of Building No.6 said that in July, some owners went through the parking space lease procedures. However, it is unsatisfactory that other people's cars often park in their own parking spaces, and the parking spaces are the same as those without parking spaces; Stop the car. You can stop wherever you want. 1October 22nd, 165438+ The property posted a notice again. 1October 23rd-February 6th 165438, try out vehicles entering and leaving the community and issue temporary parking permits. The deadline is 65438+February 6th. From February 7, 65438, unlicensed vehicles were not allowed to enter the community. 165438+1October 25th, the property management company posted a "notice letter" to provide preferential parking space rental price, and each parking space is 260 yuan per month (including management fee 50 yuan).

As soon as the notice came out, there were many discussions in the community: the underground garage parking spaces purchased by the owners only had the right to use, but no property rights. Whose property right is the underground garage in the community? Does the developer have the right to rent and sell? Is there a charging basis for parking spaces in underground garages? How much is the monthly fee for a parking space? How is the cost calculated? At the same time, in July, the owners of parking spaces were dissatisfied with the fact that their parking spaces were often occupied by others and did not want to continue to pay fees.

Attribute reply >>

The rent calculated by the developer is 350 yuan per month, which has been discounted now. At present, the biggest problem is that there is no government-guided price for parking space leasing.

65438+February 65438+May, in the property management office of Shi Sheng Huacheng Community, the project manager of the property management department answered some questions that residents were concerned about. "The owner can be provided with a map of the underground garage, and the developer is going through the property rights formalities." Manager Li took out the mapping map and saw that there were two large garages underground. According to Manager Li, the property rights of the garages in Area A and Area B belong to the construction unit, and the garages in Area C and Area D belong to civil air defense projects. At present, there are more than 980 underground parking spaces in the community, of which 450 have been sold and rented 150. But what is worrying is that there are more than 1700 residents in the community, and now there are more than 800 cars. There is no parking space on the ground of the community. After all the owners move in, if there are owners to buy, there will be parking spaces for sale, and it is very likely that there will be money to rent parking spaces in the future.

"The price of parking space rental fee is set by the developer. What is the final situation now is under discussion. " Manager Li said that the cost of parking spaces provided by developers is 2,400 yuan per square meter, "but walls, pillars, etc. should be considered as shared areas." So the cost of a parking space is more than 80,000 yuan. According to the rent for 20 years, the monthly rent should be around 350 yuan. "As for how the cost is calculated, the property manager can't say clearly." There is a lot of pressure now, hoping to solve the problem. "Manager Li said that the biggest problem now is that there is no government-guided price and there is no basis for parking space leasing.

Regulatory department >>

At present, there are no legal details, and there is no government-guided price to solve the problem. Only two parties negotiate.

The dispute over parking spaces in Shi Sheng Huacheng Community, the Housing Management Office and the Price Office of High-tech Zone Housing Management Bureau, as regulatory departments, are also involved. Since1end of October 165438+, both departments have received the instructions from citizens forwarded by the citizens' service hotline 12345, requesting to handle this matter, but both feel that there is no legal basis.

The relevant person in charge of the Housing Management Bureau of High-tech Zone said that as a housing management department, it can only suggest that property companies improve their service level and can do nothing about the price issue. The relevant person in charge of the Price Office of High-tech Zone said that after receiving the three public bills transferred from 12345, he consulted the price department of the superior city many times and all said that there was no relevant government guidance price.

According to the person in charge of the price department, the parking space rental fee is generally divided into two parts, one is the "parking space occupation fee" and the other is the "storage fee". "Care fee" Jinan Municipal Price Bureau issued a document in 2004, which stipulated the care fee for vehicles in the property management area. "The storage fee of the underground garage shall not exceed 100 yuan per month." However, the "parking space occupancy fee" belongs to the commodity rental fee, and the pricing will follow the market. "It is not within the scope of government pricing, and the relevant departments can only issue government guidance prices according to laws and regulations and determine an interval." Wang Hui, a lawyer of Cai Hao Law Firm who participated in the formulation of the Regulations on Property Management in Shandong Province, said that it is necessary to call on relevant departments to issue relevant documents as soon as possible. At present, the parking space rental fee can only be determined by both parties through consultation.