How much is it to buy a charging pile?

Oil price operation entered the 9 yuan era. The rising cost of automobile use also makes consumers' demand for new energy vehicles continue to heat up.

According to the data of china electronic chamber of commerce Intelligent Electric Vehicle Professional Committee, in 20021year, the cumulative sales volume of new energy vehicle terminals nationwide was 2,883,200, accounting for 13.88% of the total sales volume of passenger cars. Among them, the cumulative sales volume of pure electric vehicles is as high as 2366. 1 1 10,000, and the annual sales volume of pure electric passenger cars accounts for 1 1.37% of the total sales volume of passenger cars, and it is still on the rise.

New energy vehicles are entering thousands of households with an irresistible trend, but the charging problems that follow are beginning to appear, especially the charging problems caused by the installation of household charging piles, and various charging projects can be described as varied. Some car owners did not encounter extra charges during the installation process, while others were charged thousands of dollars. Where do these expenses come from? Who is charging? How to solve these problems? Recently, Red Star journalists conducted a survey of new energy vehicle users who installed household charging piles within one year, and selected some typical cases to reveal the problems existing in the installation process of household charging piles as comprehensively as possible.

Case 1 Installation of "orderly charging pile", can it give consumers one more choice?

Cost breakdown of installing charging piles-

State grid installation service fee: 2000 yuan

Charging service fee: 0.3 yuan is charged per kilowatt hour.

In the month of 65438+ 10 this year, Ms. Zhou, who lives in Jinglan Peninsula in Chengdu, finally bought back her favorite Tesla Model Y. However, what she didn't expect was that the installation of household charging piles was full of twists and turns, and the charging piles were installed in more than a month. Although the installation of charging piles saves a lot of money compared with the initial installation fee, Ms. Zhou has many doubts about the inexplicably increased "service fee".

At first, Ms. Zhou planned to buy Tesla's "Home Charging Service Package". Because Tesla officially arranged for a designated service provider to conduct on-site survey, 9.9 yuan was charged for successful survey, and no charge was charged for unsuccessful survey, which made Ms. Zhou feel very reliable. After carefully studying the cost, Ms. Zhou began to retreat. Ms. Zhou said that the official price of Tesla's "Home Charging Service Package" is 8,000 yuan, including a charging pile and a 40-meter cable. If the cable laying distance is too long, Tesla can upgrade the cable for free, but the part exceeding 40 meters will be charged at 70 yuan per meter. Ms. Zhou's charging pile is 95 meters long from the power socket to the parking space, of which 55 meters should be calculated according to the 70 yuan per meter, and the extra cable alone will cost more than 3,800 yuan. In this way, the cost of installing a charging pile exceeds 1. 1 ten thousand yuan.

Ms. Zhou thought about it and felt that it was not worthwhile. Therefore, she never cared about charging piles and looked up a lot of information on the Internet. After many recommendations and comparisons, she bought a charging pile and installation package that meets the requirements of Model Y online. According to this installation package purchased online, each meter of cable only needs 50 yuan, and with the charging of the charging pile, her total cost is only about 7,000 yuan. However, when Ms. Zhou was joyfully waiting for the installer to come to the door for installation, the other party said that because some wiring areas were too high, 40 yuan would have to pay an extra high operating fee for each meter of cable. In this way, every meter of cable in 50 yuan becomes a 90 yuan. Together with the cost of purchasing charging piles, the total cost is more than 1 1,000, which is not much different from the cost of Tesla charging service package. Ms. Zhou is very angry. Because of the same route as Tesla, why does this online shopping installation package installation company have to pay a high extra fee? Ms. Zhou immediately gave up the installation and returned it online by purchasing charging piles and installation packages. Although the installation was unsuccessful, the other party still charged Ms. Zhou the door-to-door fee 150 yuan.

In the end, Ms. Zhou found the State Grid and installed the "orderly charging pile" through the property management. Although the wiring is 100 meters long, Ms. Zhou only spent 2000 yuan, which is the least of the three installation methods she tried. "The charging pile has no price, only the right to use." Compared with the first two installation schemes, Ms. Zhou currently chooses this method, and she will charge a certain fee for each kilowatt hour in the future. Ms. Zhou said that the community she lives in is an old community, and not every household has an independent electricity meter, so they did not implement the ladder electricity price in the whole community, and they all charged at around 0.54 yuan/kWh. After the charging pile is installed, the service charge of 0.3 yuan/kWh will be added to the electricity price in different time periods. Although thousands of dollars were saved in the installation stage of charging piles, in the long run, the cost of charging has increased. Ms. Zhou believes that the purpose of buying pure electric vehicles is to save the use cost and enjoy the charging of ladder electricity prices. However, from the current situation, we can't enjoy the ladder electricity price, but we have to pay more expensive electricity price than usual.

Ms. Zhou clicked on the charging record of the "e-charging" APP. The reporter saw that Ms. Zhou spent a total of 20.8 yuan on her latest charge, including charging fee 13.46 yuan and service fee of 7.34 yuan, accounting for 35% of the total cost. The charging time is 0: 00 am 0:00- 10/0, and the average electricity price is 0.55 yuan/kwh.

On the one hand, Ms. Zhou questioned whether the method of charging the "service fee" in the electricity bill was compliant, and suggested that the charging pile construction and installation unit could give consumers one more choice, such as paying the full initial installation fee at one time, and not charging the "service fee" according to the charging degree later.

The reporter consulted a FAQ, which explained the collection of "service fee": Because "unified construction and unified operation service" includes low-voltage distribution system interface leasing, centralized optimization and regulation of charging load, routine maintenance and fault repair service of orderly charging piles, the charging service fee is charged according to the actual situation. The government allows the charging facilities with "unified construction and unified operation" to charge reasonable service fees to make up for the construction, renovation and operation costs.

Case 2: The community charges 5500 yuan for "power capacity increase fee", and the owner is going to sue the property.

Cost breakdown of installing charging piles-

Tesla's official charging: the charging pile is 8000 yuan (including 40 meters, which is more than 70 yuan/meter).

Property fee: 5500 yuan "power capacity increase fee"

Buying a new car was originally a happy thing, but because of the installation of a household charging pile, the original simple thing became a bad thing. 202 1, 1 1, Ms. Yan (a pseudonym) bought a Tesla electric car and planned to install a household charging pile in the parking space of the community (chenghua district Vanke Tianhui Mansion). However, the residential property informed that the charging pile should be charged according to the power capacity of 500 yuan per kilowatt (at present, the power of ordinary charging piles is 7 kW- 165438). That is, a one-time charge of at least 3500-5500 yuan), Ms. Yan's charging pile is 1 1kW, and she has to pay 5500 yuan. At the same time, the owner must sign an agreement on the installation and use of self-use piles. However, Vanke Tianhui Property cannot produce the standard documents or the approval documents of the price department on charging the "power capacity increase fee" and the approval of the charging standard. According to the Red Star journalist, Vanke Tianhui Residential Project is a newly-built residential area delivered from June 5438 to February 2020, with relatively new power facilities and capacity.

Although this inexplicable "capacity increase fee" was not recognized, due to the pressure of inconvenient charging after the vehicle was bought back, Ms. Yan still had to pay 5,500 yuan to the property to install the charging pile. However, in the name of the invoice issued by the owner, "power capacity increase fee" has become "enterprise service management fee", which she is also puzzled.

Since then, Ms. Yan has complained online. Although many departments have contacted her, without exception, she said that the state has not explicitly stipulated that residential properties should be charged such fees, which need to be resolved through consultation between the two parties and legal channels can be taken if necessary. Ms. Yan told reporters that relevant prosecution materials are being prepared recently to sue Vanke Tianhui Property. She also said that many owners who have installed or are preparing to install charging piles in the community are organizing rights protection, saying that they do not recognize this charging method of property. "Our community shows the second phase of Golden Yuefu on Vanke APP, but it is a few hundred meters away. The owner of Golden Yuefu will not charge any fees for installing charging piles. "

Case 3: high one-time investment and low long-term use cost.

Cost breakdown of installing charging piles-

Weilai official charge: the wire rod exceeds the free meter 100 meter, 7,000 yuan (the charging pile is free, including 30 meters, exceeding the 70 yuan/meter charge).

Property fee: 0 yuan (no property fee).

Mr. Yang bought a Weilai ES6 last year, and spent 7,000 yuan to install household charging piles in the parking space of the community, all of which were wire fees, and the community property did not charge any fees. Mr. Yang told the Red Star reporter that the reason why so many wires are used is because the special electric meter used needs to be connected to the underground parking lot from his own meter box, and he lives on more than 20 floors, so he naturally needs long cables. However, unlike the electricity price accessed from the property regional master table, the fee of this separate special meter is paid by two separate accounts, which is not affected by the ladder electricity price and can enjoy the peak-valley electricity price. The peak-to-peak charging cost is low, so Mr. Yang set it to charge in the early morning and enjoy the valley electricity price.

Case 4 Peripheral charging is convenient. Give up household charging piles.

Ms. Xing bought an electric car from last year and has been using it for half a year. What makes her very satisfied is that the use cost is extremely low, "basically there is no cost." She told the Red Star journalist that she consulted the residential property when buying a car, and there was a service fee of several thousand yuan for installing the household charging pile, so she gave up the installation. Because there is a self-owned overcharge station in Tucki, which is about 2 kilometers away from her home, "When I bought a car, I gave a lifetime free charging service of 3,000 kWh. According to my frequency of use, I run 200 kilometers a week to charge it, and the 70-degree battery pack is charged from 30% to 90%, which is about 30 kWh, so for me, 3000 kWh per year is completely enough (202 1 year). According to her introduction, Tucki charges more according to time, and it is the cheapest at night, but Tucki sends electricity, so she chooses the daytime. About an hour and a half at a time. Playing mobile phone in the car is almost enough, and it's not too late. "However, although the use cost of pure electric vehicles is very low, she believes that mileage anxiety is still the biggest shortcoming of trams." In the past, it was no problem to drive an oil car for 600 kilometers. Now I feel that I have to charge it after driving for 200 kilometers, thinking about worry. "

Case 5 is unwilling to pay a service fee of 7,000 yuan, and the owner suspends buying a car and waits for the new regulations.

Cost breakdown of installing charging piles-

At present, the property service fee policy: a one-time "service fee" is charged according to the power of the charging pile, with a power of 7,000 yuan.

New policy: install orderly piles, with installation fee of 2000 yuan, plus 0.3 yuan service fee for each kilowatt hour.

From February to March, Ms. Qi, who lives in the seventh phase of China Resources 24 City, still didn't wait for the new charging notice to install charging piles in the community, and the plan to buy new energy vehicles was only pushed back.

Ms. Qi told reporters that she was optimistic about a new energy vehicle before and after the Spring Festival, but because the new installation fee standard for the seventh phase of China Resources 24 City where she lives has not been announced, she has not paid the deposit. Ms. Qi said that because a friend bought a car before, the property management of the community was not allowed to install charging piles, or to charge additional fees such as expansion fees and service fees. If the cost incurred in the installation process is too high, it is likely to affect the brand and model she chooses. "After all, the budget is so much." Therefore, in the case that the property management regulations on how to install and charge household charging piles have not been implemented, she decided not to buy a car for the time being.

Seeing the price of No.95 oil approaching 9 yuan, Ms. Qi, who has been waiting for news, is a little anxious. Last weekend, Ms. Qi, who had waited for more than half a month and still didn't wait for the news, asked the property management again. The staff of the property center told her that according to the current regulations of the community, the property management will charge a one-time "service fee" according to the power of the residential charging piles, and the power per 1 kilowatt is 1 000 yuan, and so on. According to the current property charging standard, Ms. Qi's fancy new energy vehicle needs to install a charging pile with a slow charging power of 7KW, so she charges a service fee of 7,000 yuan. Plus the extra charging service package she needs to buy and the cable cost exceeding the length, it will cost her at least1.5-20 thousand to install a charging pile. This is really beyond her budget. In this regard, the service staff of the property center also suggested that if she is not particularly anxious, she should wait for a period of time, because it is really not cost-effective to give several thousand yuan at a time. At present, the State Grid and the residential property have preliminarily finalized the installation of four public charging piles in the public area of the residential area, but the installation and charging scheme of household charging piles have to wait.

While Ms. Qi is waiting for the news of the property, the Announcement on Orderly Charging Project of "Unified Construction and Unified Operation" in China Resources 24th City Phase IV has been posted. According to the public notice, electric vehicles are charged in disorder during the peak period of residents' electricity consumption, resulting in the damage of transformers due to overload operation, which poses a safety risk. At the same time, if the number of electric vehicles increases rapidly, the funds needed for the transformation of the distribution system will be huge, which is unbearable for individuals. Secondly, problems such as random installation, unauthorized connection and unmanned management of charging piles may cause security risks to the community. Based on the above reasons, the community will introduce an operator, State Grid Sichuan Electric Vehicle Service Co., Ltd., to enter the community for unified planning, unified construction and unified operation, and be responsible for the transformation of the main line. , build an orderly charging system for the community, and charge the charging piles according to the instructions, so as to realize peak shifting and valley filling, and meet the demand of automobile charging while ensuring the electricity consumption of the community.

According to the announcement of the community, if the "Orderly Charging Project" is stationed in the community, the cost of building a pile package (including charging pile and installation, low-voltage cable and installation) is only 2000 yuan, and 0.3 yuan service fee will be charged for each kilowatt hour in the future.

After learning the contents of the fourth public announcement, Ms. Qi seems to have taken a reassurance. If she charges according to this standard, she won't have to choose a cheaper new energy vehicle to save money. "I will wait for the new rules."

Case 6: Power exchange service 4 times a month, and the car cost is 0.

Cost breakdown of installing charging piles-

Installation cost: The cable is not too long, and the total cost is 0 yuan.

Property fee: no charge.

Mr Guo's family bought a Weilai ES6. Although I encountered a little trouble when installing the household charging pile, after more than 0/00 days of use, the use cost is almost zero except the monthly battery rental fee of 1560 yuan.

Mr. Guo said that he was lucky and the installation of household charging piles was very smooth. The length of the cable is within the free range of the installation package, so there is no extra cost. There is no service charge for the property. I just had a little trouble applying for installation. Because the contract provided by Weilai is a tripartite contract, but the property management company only recognizes the national unified contract, so he signed a national unified contract with Weilai. However, the process of re-signing the contract did not delay his time to install the household charging pile. The only cost incurred is the extra courier fee.

What he relishes most is that he only rents 1.56 yuan's battery fee every month, and 1.000 has not spent a penny on electricity for more than a few days. Because he chose to install the household charging pile, Weilai officially provided four free power exchanges every month, which basically met the needs of their families, and there was no need to queue up for each power exchange, which was very convenient. Therefore, the household charging pile has been installed for more than 0/00 days and has never been used once. Colleagues who bought the same model chose not to install household charging piles, so the official sent six free power exchanges every month, and the power consumption cost was almost zero.

Mr. Guo also has a BMW MINI at home, but since he used Weilai, he rarely uses that MINI again. The recent surge in oil prices has not affected his mood at all.

Talking about the charging standard for installing charging piles in residential quarters

At present, there is no clear regulation.

Why do some residential properties charge nothing, while others charge thousands of "service fees"? The reporter inquired on the Internet that in August of 20021,Chengdu Economic and Information Bureau, together with the Municipal Housing and Construction Bureau, the Municipal Development and Reform Commission, the Municipal Market Supervision Bureau, the Municipal Emergency Bureau, the Municipal Civil Air Defense Office and the Municipal Fire Rescue Detachment, jointly issued the Detailed Rules for the Construction and Management of Electric Vehicle Charging Facilities in Residential Areas in Chengdu, but there was no clear stipulation on the charges during the installation of charging piles in the detailed rules, and only the charges were mentioned twice.

A few days ago, the Red Star journalist dialed the contact information of the answering department announced in the interpretation of the detailed rules and policies. After explaining the situation to the Municipal Economic and Information Bureau, the National Development and Reform Commission, the Housing and Construction Bureau, the Market Supervision Bureau and other departments, we got the answer that the current property fees for installing household charging piles are not included in the pricing category from the national to the provincial and local levels, so there is no constraint from the policy level. Such charging standards belong to market bargaining behavior, and whether the residential property charges should be decided by the owners.

However, the Municipal Housing and Construction Bureau also stated that if the property party fails to provide substantive services, it cannot charge. Regarding the statement of power capacity increase fee, the property owner needs to provide the basis for issuing relevant service terms and charging standards.

Charging pile installation policy

New energy vehicle manufacturers are different.

In the interview, Red Star News reporter found that the compensation policies of major new energy automobile brands for charging piles, changing electricity and not installing charging piles are different, but the descriptions of some manufacturers in official website are incomplete. In this regard, the reporter specially collected some charging pile installation policies of mainstream new energy vehicles, and interviewed front-line sales personnel for verification, and finally made a "list of charging pile installation policies of mainstream brands" for consumers who intend to buy new energy vehicles.

Many users who have bought new energy vehicles have said that before deciding to buy new energy vehicles, they must first consult the relevant matters of installing charging piles in residential properties. If they coordinate after buying a car, it is likely that they will not install it, which will also have a greater impact on later use.

After communicating with the property, before confirming that the household charging pile can be installed, the owner must first confirm the way to get electricity. At present, there are generally three ways to install electricity in residential areas, one is to connect with independent power grid meters, the other is to connect with its own meters, and the third is to connect with property meters. Among the three ways to connect electricity, the grid meter is recommended, which is an independent account and can enjoy the peak and valley electricity prices of household electricity. However, if the meter is far from the parking space, the wire fee is not a small expense; Compared with the first one, the second one has peak-valley electricity price, but the electricity consumption will be added to the ladder electricity price on the household electricity meter, and the more it is used, the more expensive it will be; The third kind of property meter box is connected with electricity at a unified price, and there is no difference between peak and valley electricity prices, but it is generally close to parking spaces, and the number of meters used for wires is less than the first two.

Red Star News reporter Liu Aini Zhang Yu