What does the property company mean that the kitchen and bathroom will not change the nature of use?

Tampering with the bathroom: a tug-of-war upstairs and downstairs

On April 20 this year, the owner of Room 504 of a building in Pioneer Garden found that during the second renovation, Room 604, which had already moved in in advance, changed the building structure without authorization and changed the bathroom to the top of his bedroom and hall.

Downstairs: security risks

The owner downstairs said that the developer's agreement only guarantees five years of impermeability, but after five years? The bathroom upstairs is the bedroom downstairs. What if there is water seepage? The owner downstairs believes that the unilateral renovation of the upstairs bathroom has seriously affected the safety of the downstairs.

A few days later, the owner downstairs found a property management company and a developer. The developer thinks that the upstairs owner's unauthorized change of the housing structure does not conform to the relevant regulations, and requires the property management company to notify the upstairs to restore the original state.

On April 27, in order to further solve the problem, the owners and developers downstairs and upstairs held a coordination meeting, but it ended without results.

Find the vice president from the employees and the general manager from the vice president. The owner downstairs thinks that the developer is not strong enough at least when dealing with this matter. "We are a vulnerable group because all the money we should pay has been paid."

In order to find another way, the owner downstairs found the municipal supervision department. After investigation, on May 23rd, Quanzhou Urban Construction Supervision Brigade sent a notice to Room 604. The notice pointed out that the act of changing the use function of Room 604 without authorization during the decoration process has violated the relevant provisions of the Measures for the Administration of Interior Decoration of Residential Buildings of the Ministry of Construction, requiring it to be restored to its original state and correct the illegal acts.

On May 25, the two sides held another coordination meeting with the developer, which still failed.

Upstairs: Just waterproof.

The owner downstairs told the reporter that they had searched everything except the court for this matter and regarded it as the top priority of the whole family in recent days.

But the upstairs owner thinks that he has no responsibility, and the bathroom will not affect the downstairs. They believe that if waterproof measures are in place, there should be no infiltration.

The upstairs owner said, "We changed the kitchen into a toilet in 704. If we are worried about infiltration, how can we do so? " You can't stop doing things because you are afraid. "

The upstairs owner told reporters that this phenomenon is very common in the community. "If you want to see, I can take you there. Some bedrooms are converted into kitchens, and some kitchens are converted into toilets. You are so worried, don't you quarrel every day? " Besides, we renovated it in March this year, and the regulations implemented in May this year are not applicable. "

Out of caution, the upstairs owner still said that if infiltration really happens in the future, "we will compensate as much as we can."

After running for a while, the owners downstairs are exhausted. They said that if no solution can be found, the sewer pipe will have to be blocked, and if we insist on dredging the upstairs, the current "Cold War" will become a "conflict".

Way out: Calling for Morality

The reporter learned that this phenomenon is not uncommon in urban areas.

During the second renovation, due to different personal preferences, many owners made certain changes to the housing structure, resulting in many disputes.

In the interview, the owner downstairs said, "If it won't penetrate, it's none of my business how you like to change it, but you can't harm my interests!"

The new "Measures" of the Ministry of Construction, which was implemented in May this year, clearly pointed out that residential decoration should solicit the opinions of neighbors and not harm others. In an interview, both owners agreed that it was not everyone's intention to look down and see unpleasant things.

It is precisely because neighbors have lived for most of their lives that the implementation of the new Measures largely depends on the improvement of public awareness.

In addition, the Ministry of Construction recently issued two regulations in Guangdong, pushing the renovation once in place in the real estate market, so that blank houses fade out of the market.

For developers, a good reputation not only stays in building luxury houses, but also makes people live comfortably. If the secondary decoration is avoided and the damage to the residential structure is reduced, there will be no such trouble between neighbors.

For property management, it is natural to give people money to eliminate disasters. But in Quanzhou, many property management companies and developers are actually the same, and the level of competition in property management is too low. Many companies don't worry about what the owners think at all.

It seems that it is indispensable to strengthen professional ethics and raise public awareness.

The attitude of developers and property is very clear.

The second decoration of the upstairs owner is illegal.

Although it is not a dispute with the developer, the dispute between Room 504 and Room 604 of a building in Pioneer Garden has once again verified the saying that "buying a house in Quanzhou means buying trouble". Recently, the reporter interviewed the developers and property management companies of the Pioneer Park. Their attitudes are clear: the owner of Room 604 of a building violated the rules.

Reason: Room 604 bathroom was expanded.

Mr. Zhuang, the general manager of the real estate development company, and Mr. Zhang, the person in charge of the property, were interviewed by reporters.

Mr. Zhuang told reporters that the Pioneer Park was completed and accepted on October 30th last year, and the original check-in time was advanced. Many owners moved in last February. It was during this period that the owner of Room 604 completed the second renovation and moved in.

Mr. Zhuang said that on April 20 this year, the developer handed over the house to the owner of a 504-room building, and the owner proposed to have a look at the neighbor's house. As a result, when he arrived at Room 604, he found that the bathroom in Room 604 was nearly 1 meter long in the hall, and a small part of it was already above their living room. Mr. Zhuang said that the owner of Room 504 didn't say anything at that time, but then he began to raise objections to the developers. Mr. Zhuang said that although the expansion of the bathroom in Room 604 did not have much impact on Room 504, Room 504 always felt that someone else's bathroom was on their head and felt very bad, so it strongly urged Room 604 to indent a part of the bathroom, but Room 604 was unwilling to change its design because it had been renovated. Mr. Zhuang said that although they have made a lot of efforts, the contradiction has intensified.

Attitude: Room 604 is illegally decorated.

In an interview, both the developer and the property clearly expressed their attitude towards the dispute between the two owners, arguing that the owner of Room 604 violated the rules during the renovation.

Mr. Zhuang said that in order to standardize the second decoration, they signed an agreement with the owners on the second decoration, and each owner paid a deposit of 1 000 yuan for the decoration violation. However, because most owners are now implementing closed-door decoration, developers can't know how their internal structure is designed when decorating, and only after the final acceptance can they know how their decoration is.

Mr. Zhuang said that since the renovation of Room 604, the property has not been accepted, and the deposit of 1 0,000 yuan has not been required to be returned. Therefore, when they went to Room 604 with the owner of Room 504 to look at the house, they realized that they had changed the location of the bathroom without authorization, and added bathrooms in the living room and bedroom without waterproof requirements, which changed the use function of the original house design and violated many regulations.

Mr. Zhuang told reporters that there is no doubt that the renovation of Room 604 is illegal, which is also the main reason for this dispute and should bear full responsibility.

Mediation: Little progress has been made.

Room 504 reported to the developer and the property, and held four coordination meetings to try to find a solution to the problem. However, Room 604 refused to restore the original design on the pretext of ensuring watertightness, and Room 504 resolutely disagreed, so the coordination progress has not been great.

Mr. Zhang, the person in charge of the property, told the reporter helplessly that the coordination work was slow because the owner of Room 604 was often not found. The owner of Room 504 often looks for developers and properties, but developers and properties have no law enforcement power, so it is impossible to break into houses and forcibly dismantle the bathroom in Room 604.

Mr. Zhuang introduced that a week ago, they had a coordination meeting. The developer asked Room 604 to extend the bathroom to the lobby, and Room 504 finally agreed to this plan, but Room 604 has not given a reply so far.

Mr. Zhuang said that because they did not have the power to enforce the law, as early as May 14, they reported to the Quanzhou supervision detachment with the power to enforce the law and asked for assistance in correcting the practice of Room 604. On May 23rd, Quanzhou Supervision Brigade also sent a notice to Room 604 to correct the illegal behavior, but so far there is no result.

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Relevant laws and regulations in the Measures for the Administration of Residential Interior Decoration

Article 17: The property management unit shall conduct management according to the management service agreement for residential interior decoration. If it is found that the decoration person or decoration enterprise has violated the rules, it should be stopped immediately. If it has caused factual consequences or refuses to correct it, it shall promptly report to the relevant departments for handling according to law. If a decoration person or decoration enterprise violates the residential interior decoration management service agreement, it shall be held liable for breach of contract. Thirty-eighth residential interior decoration has one of the following acts, the city real estate administrative department shall order it to make corrections and impose a fine. (a) changing rooms and balconies without waterproof requirements into bathrooms and kitchens, or removing brick-concrete walls connecting balconies, the decorator shall be fined between 65,438 yuan and 65,438 yuan in 500 yuan, and the decorator shall be fined between 0,000 yuan and 65,438 yuan. (two) damage to the original energy-saving facilities of the house or reduce the energy-saving effect, and impose a fine of more than 5000 yuan 1000 yuan on the decoration enterprise. (3) Dismantling heating and gas pipelines and facilities without authorization, and imposing a fine of over 1000 yuan on the decorator. (4) If the floor load is increased beyond the design standards or specifications without the original design unit or a design unit with corresponding qualification grade, the decorator will be fined 1 000 yuan, and the decorator will be fined 1 000 yuan.

Article 39 Whoever, without the approval of the competent department of city planning administration, builds buildings and structures in the interior decoration activities of houses, or arbitrarily changes the facade of houses or opens doors and windows on non-load-bearing walls shall be punished by the competent department of city planning administration in accordance with the provisions of the city planning law and relevant laws and regulations.

The citizens have opinions on the decoration dispute.

Decoration should consider the interests of neighbors.

(Reporter Wan Xiande) Nowadays, the second decoration of houses has become an important aspect for people who are increasingly pursuing the enjoyment of houses. However, people concerned believe that the second renovation must consider the interests of neighbors. Many citizens have expressed their views on the controversy over the transformation of the Pioneer Park.

Mr. Zhuang in the urban area thinks that although only part of the bathroom after the renovation of Room 604 is above the entrance hall of Room 504, the residents in Room 504 must feel very bad, because once they sit down, they will think of the toilet overhead from time to time. Mr. Zhuang believes that buying a house now is a major event in life, and it is awkward to spend almost all his life savings and have a toilet on his head for a long time.

Mr. Wu believes that although you can't see the toilet above the house, you always feel that living under other people's toilets every day is a shadow for everyone. Mr. Wan believes that the residents in Room 604 should actively cooperate with the relevant departments from the legal and moral point of view, and rebuild their illegally expanded toilets without affecting the interests of their neighbors.

Ms. Xu told reporters that although the bathroom upstairs can't be seen directly, it will make a loud pumping sound when used. Although only a part of the bathroom in Room 604 directly faces the living room downstairs, it will definitely have a great impact on the downstairs.

The industry believes that there are special laws and regulations for secondary decoration, and developers will generally sign corresponding agreements with owners, so owners must carry out secondary decoration in accordance with relevant regulations. For example, Room 604 has received the Notice of Ordering to Correct Illegal Acts from the Municipal Supervision Detachment, and the house that has been painstakingly renovated needs to be partially adjusted. This unauthorized reconstruction not only damages its own economic interests, but also brings endless trouble to others.

Insiders reminded that the renovation must take into account the interests of the whole building and others and be carried out in accordance with relevant laws and regulations.