How do you view the follow-up to the postdoctoral salary incident at the First Hospital of Sun Yat-sen University? What is the specific situation?

Many things related to medicine have changed a bit in China.

The establishment of postdoctoral fellows is to facilitate further exploration and accumulation of research experience in a certain field of interest after completion of the doctoral degree, or

there are some topics that are not fully understood during the doctoral stage. , do it full-time during this period and achieve results.

In this way, in the subsequent personal development, you can better apply for your own funds or teaching positions, and also give yourself a period of time to find the direction you are really willing to work on.

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In European and American countries, postdoctoral work is a job, and the supervisor needs to pay a salary. This part of the salary can come from the supervisor’s scientific research funds

or from the funds established by the research institution. Special funding items. ?

This is a two-way selection relationship. The postdoctoral fellow chooses this supervisor and school based on his or her own research interests. At the same time, the supervisor and the school recognize the postdoctoral fellow's ability and previous research experience. .

But in China, postdocs have become a deformed product of involution.

The First Hospital of CUHK, or the major affiliated hospitals under the CUHK system, has always been the leading hospital involved in domestic scientific research. Behind the rich

scientific research results every year is The result of the hard work of many masters, doctors and postdocs. ?

1. It stands to reason that a hospital with such a scale of scientific research output should pay special attention to talents, but on the contrary, among the few people I know who work in the affiliated hospitals of CUHK

For students who work, they do not feel the warmth of the hospital, they only feel that it is getting harder and harder:

Anyway, there will be another crop of leeks after they are cut. As long as I raise the requirements for teaching positions, there will always be someone who can. Roll it out.

Medicine is a major with high initial costs, so it is understandable that it requires a lot of time and investment.

But after studying hard since I was an undergraduate, and then working hard in my thirties, I still have to be punished and threatened when I raise my voice to protect my own rights.

This profession is really not suitable. It's worth spending your entire youth. ?

I remember when I was in high school, when I filled in the target university, I wrote Sun Yat-sen University.

Every time I go to Guangzhou, I always want to visit the North Campus. This is my first time. When I saw the words Sun Yat-sen Medical University, I was even a little excited.

I only hope that the teachers and leaders of CUHK will not forget the concept that Mr. Sun Yat-sen adhered to when he was founded.

In that era when people were exploited, we proposed the principles of equality and justice. idea.

Now it’s just a postdoc from his own school who raised his voice, disbanded the WeChat group, and moved out to say that he is not protected by the Labor Law.

It has really lost the face of the No. 1 school in South China.

2. To put it bluntly, postdocs are subject to multiple management and requirements from their mentors, schools, and hospitals. They have to publish articles, engage in research projects, and go to the operating table. 996

And 007 are commonplace. Looking at Mr. Weng’s WeChat avatar, wearing a surgical hat instead of a mortar board, I even wanted to laugh a little

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But obviously there are no three wages, and they are not even willing to admit labor relations! This shady operation of Zhongshan No. 1 Hospital will no longer be used by people in the future.

I think back in 2011, Shanghai issued a compulsory order to regulate training and unilaterally broke the contract of the newly graduated medical students who had signed a formal contract

and sent them all away. After entering the regular training, I found that the monthly salary was more than 800, and the bonus was 2, 3K. A similar symposium was held for trainees at a certain mountain hospital. Everyone complained about poor treatment and low wages. The Human Resources Department listened carefully to their opinions, just like that. ?

In the end, the leader said, young people should not be afraid of not having money. People are afraid of not having money when they are old. Work hard when you are young, so that you will not be short of money when you are old.

Quoting the words of the old director, our Xshan Hospital has never been short of people who want to come in. If you don’t want to work, you can leave. Those who want to work queue up and go to Xujiahui.

Indeed, there is indeed no shortage of people in truly awesome units. Everyone is squeezed out, and no one is irreplaceable.

Is it possible that the Medical Doctors Association, under the guise of protecting doctors, is oppressing doctors and preventing doctors from making legitimate demands and resistance?

3. The so-called news of dismissal is doubtful and is most likely a rumor.

I guess neither the hospital nor the postdoc will speak out again, so there is no way to prove it. The screenshot doesn’t say anything about “dismissal” at all.

Postdocs are not employees, so they cannot be dismissed. There is no context for the labor law section, so I don’t know the specific content.

It is estimated that the postdoctoral training period will end normally, both sides will give up the choice, and break up peacefully.

This matter has no impact on the hospital. There will be no shortage of postdoctoral fellows in the First Hospital of Sun Yat-sen University. The relationship between supply and demand is clear

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There are many similar situations. It depends on the relationship between supply and demand. It is meaningless to just talk about how much you pay.

In terms of the actual money paid, it did not meet the postdoctoral fellow’s expectations, but it fully complied with national regulations and was above the average for similar statuses. Postdoc is just a name. If we have to compare it with the United States, it is more like a "resident doctor". They spend eight years in college, enter the hospital for training for three years, and then find a job. The treatment is similar. However, no matter what dispute occurs, Zhongshan No. 1 Hospital is a well-known large-scale tertiary-level comprehensive hospital at home and abroad. Its staff should also have high quality. However, in the chat records, Zhongshan No. 1 Hospital However, the staff of the hospital are so arrogant and arrogant that they say "What can you do to me?" As a worker, I am deeply indignant about this.

4. I know that in some public hospitals, the medical staff they recruit have to work for three years. During these three years, they will not sign a contract or pay social security and medical insurance.

It will take three years before I start signing a labor contract with you.

I also know that some public hospitals sign high service compensation contracts with newly graduated medical students. I'll tell you when it's time to sign. It's okay. Just sign

your name. You have just graduated and are eager to take the postgraduate and Ph.D. exams. Once a civil servant takes the postgraduate or career exams and resigns during your service period, you will face "liquidated damages ranging from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands." "If I don't pay you, I won't give you files; you don't have to pay compensation, just sign a contract to work for the hospital for ten years after graduation."

Huh. Some administrators even look down upon the director and head nurse. What's more, grassroots medical staff who are not directors or head nurses?

In the eyes of administrative staff, they are just long-term workers.

Anyway, there are many bulls and horses, and the number of students applying for medical majors in the college entrance examination has been on the rise in the past two years, which has given some hospitals a lot of confidence

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