Is Tianze biodiesel a scam?

[Reprinted] Tianze energy scam, the sorrow of China! ! What's the use of paying taxes? _

2014-12-2417:13: 41page views: 0.

Weibo read a lot of information about using investment and health care products to deceive the elderly. Although many people know that a liar has only two or three tricks, the real difficulty is that even if you know the liar's tricks, you can't get the evidence, and you can't get his seven inches. As a result, JC said it was difficult to obtain evidence, and the media said it was difficult to obtain evidence. Damn it, maybe you let us P do it ourselves! ! Ok, give it a try! ! Today, the company that was kicked out is Tianze Industry in the photo. This is not the first time that Tianze has been included in the city forum.

The brother who posted this post is a good example. He posted a lot of things, but he still didn't get the core evidence But even if we get the core evidence, we may be aquatic hairy crabs. It's a pity that my mother and a relative of this brother should be relatives, otherwise they wouldn't have posted such a long post and had similar experiences. This is a company called Tianze Energy, whose official name is Tianze Unemployment. And this company, to be honest, the technical operation content is not high at all. Well, it's almost worse than my bad handwriting. Ok, seriously, I hope this post can live. My mother has been retired for many years, and she is also very free after retirement. She just likes to go to the park and occasionally have a free lunch with the car. The year before last, my mother climbed Baiyun Mountain early in the morning and was going to take a ride home in Yuntai Garden. As a result, she met some young people, who gave out cheap travel vouchers and only needed 20 yuan to enjoy a day trip. This is much cheaper than a day trip on the market. So mom was moved. Unexpectedly, this car with a thief in its heart eventually led to the loss of tens of thousands of pensions.

According to my mother's description when she woke up completely, she took part in a tour organized by a company called Tianze Energy. All the participants are old people, and the destination is Nanhai Film and Television City. She didn't play much, but she ate for a long time. Before dinner, Tian showed their propaganda film with the theme of new energy, and then a so-called investment-related person came on stage to talk about investment and brag about how bright the prospect of investing in new energy is. After the lecture, the old man eating at the same table said, it's good. I earned as much as I invested, and then a young man from Tianze took up the topic and continued to persuade him. Therefore, the old mother who stood guard for N Long in the tragedy from June124 to 1600 in 2007 fell into the trap. Of course, my mother kept all this a secret for a long time, because after she lost the stock, she was very cautious about investing, afraid to let us know, for fear that we would say something about her. As a result, without our knowledge, mom and Tian signed a loan contract with a term of one year and an annual interest rate of 13. Listen carefully, this is a loan contract. A company borrowed money from an old man. I don't know if this is illegal fund-raising. If Wu Ying's case is concerned, I feel sorry for Wu Ying, but if Tianze's bosses all fall into the water, whoever saves him will be beaten by Lao Tzu. Mom said that Tianze was extremely concerned about the life of the old people, and they were all young people, much more filial than you, which made my son almost hit the wall and died. Ok, I posted a video, which was also found by the omnipotent city forum. It is said that this is a way for Tianze internal staff to make the elderly happy. Please bring your own vomit bag. Anyway, I have never seen such an ugly dance.

At the end of one year, my mother earned a little money and wanted to get back the principal of 50 thousand. As a result, the money didn't come back, but it was fooled by the other party by 200,000. The other party didn't want to return the principal, but offered my mother a little more than 20% in return. My mother thought that maybe she could earn back the money from the stock in those days, so she smashed a sum of 200 thousand. Once again, my mother won't let our family know. Until this year, one of my mother's colleagues cried to her that the money she invested in Tianze could not be recovered, and my mother began to worry. So my mother is going to get back the money she invested and go to Tianze Company. The other party refused to return it, and my mother insisted. The old man is in poor health, and she can't help it after quarreling twice. Finally, the two sides reached an agreement: everything should be done according to the contract. Before the contract expires, my mother will deduct 20% of the principal and interest, which is more than 40 thousand yuan. Up to now, my mother hasn't told me. As a result, she was ill for quite a long time after she came back. Once, my wife helped my mother type the account book and read the passbook in the bank, only to find that tens of thousands of funds had been transferred in my mother's account in the past two years. After my mother got well, we talked for a long time, and my mother told the truth. I am not a vengeful person. I'm usually fine, but if you mess with my family, that's another matter.

Although there are many posts on the Internet saying that Tianze cheated money, the company lost 3 billion yuan, and some media also exposed the company, but the company still stands. Call 123 15 to complain, forget it, or save some phone bills. A company can survive for 7 or 8 years, and it is estimated that it still has a background. I don't expect the media, JC and industry and commerce. So, I found my cousin who just graduated from college, and a few girlfriends, and I investigated it myself. Let me show you the recruitment information of Tianze first. Tianze Energy Group was approved by Guangzhou Administration for Industry and Commerce on April 28, 20 12, and was changed from Guangzhou Lier Biotechnology Co., Ltd. established in April 2005. The registered capital is 50,065,438+0,000 yuan, and the total assets are 380 million yuan. Group companies are mainly engaged in bioengineering surgery and the development of biomass energy. It has five holding subsidiaries, a research center and a bio-energy industrial base. Among them, Hunan Tianze Bioenergy Co., Ltd. was listed as a key listed enterprise by Hunan provincial government; At present, the company's annual output of biodiesel is 50,000 tons, and its production technology won the Science and Technology Innovation Award of Hunan Science and Technology Expo in 2008. A large-scale and intensive industrial pattern of forest and oil integration has been formed, and a picture scroll of the first brand of green energy in China has been slowly displayed, which fully shows the heroic spirit of Tianze people's "Long Teng Jiu Tian, Ze Wo Land"! ! Since the establishment of the company, Tianze people have been adhering to the core values of "diligence, pragmatism, innovation and development", adhering to the business philosophy of "honesty, win-win situation and harmonious progress", pursuing the ideal of "a godsend and a bright future", constantly improving the new energy industry system, constantly improving the management system, constantly strengthening the sense of social responsibility, and striving to build the most complete and technologically advanced bioenergy in China. Enterprise tenet: Fengtian can serve the country, and enterprise spirit: diligence, innovation and strength. Enterprise goal: plant 100 million trees and produce 1 million tons of oil. Business philosophy: supply oxygen to the market and help customers add value. Service concept: sincerity, kindness and sincerity.

I told my cousin that I found you a good job, did a good job, went back and cheated us of all our money, and you were completely awesome! ! So my cousin submitted his resume to Tianze. In order to cater to Tianze's taste, I specially arranged for my cousin to go to the old shop for an internship for a while. As a result, he successfully passed Tianze's interview and became a follower for several days. However, in Tianze, new employees will not be exposed to the core business, and they just participated in some training when they first came in.

The training of newcomers can be described as a thorough brainwashing process. The person in charge of training will brag to the newcomers like this: we are engaged in high-tech energy industry here, relying on this and that support and relying on this and that reward. In fact, we can also see such medals on Tianze's official Internet, but it is difficult to verify their authenticity. Later, the training will say, alas, although our future is so bright, the company will expand production at present, but that's the problem, and the money is not enough. Therefore, it is necessary to extensively absorb social idle funds. Who has money and who is idle? It is a middle-aged and elderly person in his 40 s, and the sky stipulates that people under 40 should not look for it! !

Then what do you use to attract middle-aged and elderly people? In fact, the technique is quite conventional, and many vendors selling health care products have also used it, that is, distributing leaflets on the street, and you can travel to places near Guangzhou for 20 yuan, such as Foshan, Nanhai and Sanshui. Because most of these tens of years old people are retired and have nothing to do, one-day trips are very cheap, including chartered cars. Why not pay 20 yuan? My mother said that in Yuntai Garden, People's Park and other places where there are many elderly people, these people will issue cheap travel vouchers, and they must leave telephone numbers and other information for easy contact. Well, when you have gathered a large number of old people into your tour group, set out, arrive at your destination and have a simple play, everyone will get together to prepare dinner. At this time, a promotional film will be broadcast tomorrow. You might as well see the film for yourself. This is a mystery, and the answer will be revealed later.

It is claimed to be produced by Guangdong TV Station, and the logo of the public channel is hung. Some netizens in Weibo consulted Guangdong TV Station and said that the film had never been officially broadcast. Nevertheless, we can still see that Tianze has a certain media network, but it is not very strong. Public channel is not a powerful channel. After the film is broadcast, there will be a related person to talk about financial investment. Well, this is very useful for the elderly. Who doesn't want to live a better life in old age? After the speeches of relevant people, they will enter the happy meal time. At this time, Tianze employees will start activities to persuade the elderly to invest in their industries.

In addition, Tian lures the old people to invest in the name of a so-called one-day trip, instead of just dragging them around the street. They still have screening. Old people traveling with three or more people should not, because it is not convenient for them to do it. Three heads are better than one, and three people hold a group. How can you fool the old man? Old dough sticks, that is, people who often eat and drink everywhere, are not needed, because they just eat and drink, will not invest in you, and it is not cost-effective to operate. Of course, some loyal customers brainwashed by Tianze will also bring new customers, but if they come two or three times and have no intention, they will not, but no matter what kind of people, they are all under 40. In the so-called travel process, when eating, the seats are usually arranged like this: each table has a staff member, and there will be several new customers and several old customers. After the promo is broadcast, after the so-called finance-related people speak, Tianze employees and old customers will take turns to recommend to the elderly who participate in the activity for the first time, how cost-effective it is to invest in their industry and how bright the prospects are. What is the return on investing in Tianze's projects? Annual yield 13 points! ! 2 1 and 22 points are not a problem. This is much more cost-effective than depositing in the bank! ! Now the bank's annual interest rate is only a few points! ! However, is there no problem with such a high return? Cousin said that in their training class, Tianze employees explained it this way: as long as it does not exceed 4 times of the highest bank interest rate of 6 points stipulated by the central bank, it will be fine! !

During the brainwashing in Tianze, my cousin "borrowed" an internal document at lunch. Not the core kind, of course. You might as well have a look. The rate of return provided by Tianze is compared with the deposit interest rate of the bank.

I'm not a professional financier and I don't quite understand this kind of high yield. Cousin said that there must be a brave man under four questions. During his study in Tianze, I saw many old people whispering and saying something in Tianze's office on the third floor of Xindacheng Plaza. A newcomer like him is not qualified to go in, so he can't get first-hand evidence. But why is there such a high rate of return? My cousin said that there were several cards to be played in the future. In the first card, it will be mentioned in the training that Tianze is engaged in biodiesel business. There is a biodiesel project in furong town, Yongshun County, Xiangxi Autonomous Prefecture, Hunan Province, which is industrial. The second card is also the core card. Tianze's products will be bought by PetroChina, Sinopec and CNOOC, which is awesome! ! The third card is the various awards mentioned above. Of course, we P people can't verify its authenticity. The fourth card, Tianze boss Cao X, is the title of many CPPCC members above him. The fifth card, Tian is very good at packaging himself into a socially responsible enterprise. It is said that after the Ya 'an earthquake this year, Tianze also donated 1.5 million yuan to the disaster area. The sixth card is also a core card of external image, which is often reported by the Guangdong Editing Center of CCTV China Influence.

When my cousin was undercover, he revealed that several large-scale activities were held every month. Especially on 23rd, there will be big activities, because May 23rd is the anniversary of the founding of Tianze, so the activities on 23rd every month must be big. So, my friends and I decided to follow.

The original destination of the Tianze event on July 23 this year was Foshan Qifu Huxian Hotel. My cousin repeatedly asked the old staff inside, and they insisted that it was here. However, when we called Huxian Hotel, the other party said that their banquet hall was not reserved that day. So I have to take a chance. In the early morning of July 23, my cousin watched downstairs in Xindacheng Square, and we drove with Tianze's bus. On the morning of the same day, there were many buses downstairs in Tianze, and more than N elderly people were also concentrated. Together with Tianze's staff, we welcome the old people to get on the bus one by one. Although my cousin made it clear that he was a newcomer to Tianze, Tianze employees who followed the car were still very vigilant and did not disclose the whereabouts of the bus. We were caught in a traffic jam when we went to Tianze that day. Fortunately, we still caught the last bus. As a result, the bus got on the expressway from Guangzhou Guangqing Station, drove all the way to Foshan Sanshui Yundonghai Toll Station, got off the expressway, and then turned into Cuihu Meijing Hot Spring Resort Hotel. The arrival time is about 10. Later, the old people got off the bus one after another and went to the banquet hall on the second floor of the hotel. During this period, we saw someone with a camera, but initially, it should not be the media, because there will be TV logos behind the media machine. After a bunch of old people went in, the banquet hall closed. What's going on inside? Readers should know the answer after reading the last article. Since there is no way to get in, we have to start from the periphery. We first went to the parking lot and checked the license plate number taken by my cousin. Tianze's bus did stop here. There are 8 or 9 in the parking lot and 4 on the road outside the restaurant. There are 40 people on each bus, and more than 500 people participated in this activity.

Hotel bus parking lot, there are 8 or 9 buses parked here. We checked the license plate number, which is the same as what my cousin saw when he left. Later, I went to the hotel manager and asked to see the venue on the grounds that I wanted to rent an event venue. The hotel manager said that the banquet hall rented by Tianze is their largest banquet hall, which can accommodate more than 60 tables, and each table can accommodate 10 people. Then, led by the manager, I glanced at the door of the banquet hall. It was packed, almost all middle-aged and elderly people. At this time, Tianze's propaganda film is playing on the big screen of the banquet hall ... Tianze Company has been engaged in bioenergy for many years and laid a solid foundation ... and so on.

The rent for this banquet hall for four hours is 28,800 yuan. Even if you spend money, you have to reach this amount. At noon 1 1, the banquet hall began to relax its vigilance. At this time, many young people and middle-aged and elderly people can be seen chatting one-on-one outside the corridor. At the entrance of the hotel, there is a table with a receipt on it. My cousin said that he learned from the inside that if someone intends to invest in Tianze at the scene, they can make a deposit at the scene first, and then go to the reception room on the third floor of Tianze to discuss it in detail.

What annoys people is that there are people chatting outside and there are vivid cultural performances in the banquet hall. Tianze's staff whispered to the old man. When strangers get too close, they will be very vigilant. After walking back and forth three times, I heard an old man say, alas, I just can't turn my head. It is estimated that lobbying new customers is unsuccessful, and one day employees will persuade the elderly like this. It's like doing a good business, taking your time and doing it regularly. At around 1: 30 pm, the activity is over. In fact, the whole activity was not fun at all. I'll have a meeting as soon as I get here, then I'll have dinner, and then I'll drag the old people out to lobby one by one. Then hundreds of people got on the bus and went back to their respective cities-my cousin said that this activity was not only attended by Tianze Guangzhou Branch. After returning to Guangzhou, Tianze employees drove the old people home, and some went into the third floor of Tianze. We followed him in. In the reception room on the third floor, there is a banner that is difficult to distinguish between true and false. One day, Tianze employees distributed promotional CDs to the elderly, which is probably the promotional film I posted above. Say, this can be seen as information.

At around 1: 30 pm, the activity is over. In fact, the whole activity was not fun at all. I'll have a meeting as soon as I get here, then I'll have dinner, and then I'll drag the old people out to lobby one by one. Then hundreds of people got on the bus and went back to their respective cities-my cousin said that this activity was not only attended by Tianze Guangzhou Branch. After returning to Guangzhou, Tianze employees drove the old people home, and some went into the third floor of Tianze. We followed him in. In the reception room on the third floor, there is a banner that is difficult to distinguish between true and false. One day, Tianze employees distributed promotional CDs to the elderly, which is probably the promotional film I posted above. Say, this can be seen as information.

Let me sort out the process of Tianze's deception.

Low-cost tourism attracts the elderly-old customers and employees take turns brainwashing you during the tour-you can pay a down payment on the spot if you are interested-after you return to Guangzhou, we will talk slowly and sign a contract if you are interested. The contract is only signed for one year-after the contract expires, you will not voluntarily return the principal, but continue to invest with high returns-after the contract expires, you will not voluntarily return the principal. On the contrary, I will continue to promise you high returns and continue to invest-well, I don't know who can sign such a long contract with Tianze. Anyway, once you get your principal back in advance, well, I'll deduct 20% of your principal plus interest.

According to my mother's situation, I deducted 20%, much more than what I returned to my mother. Heaven won it! !

What I don't understand is. If this company doesn't have any physical projects to make money, it will only develop new customers and give back to old customers to operate, and the interest will increase year by year. Assuming that no one gets back the principal in advance, it will be earned in vain, so how much will it take to tear down the east wall and make up the west wall? I'm not good at playing math. Please read the official advice.

Baidu Encyclopedia introduced this.

Ponzi scheme is the oldest and most common investment fraud and a variant of pyramid scheme. Many illegal pyramid schemes use this trick to collect money. This kind of fraud was "invented" by a speculator named Charles Ponzi. Ponzi scheme is also called "robbing Peter to pay Paul" and "empty gloves and white wolves" in China. In short, it is to use the money of new investors to pay interest and short-term returns to old investors, so as to create the illusion of making money and then defraud more investment.