What kind of experience is it without "establishment" in public institutions?

My unit is a township, and there are only three people in my department, one is the service post of public institutions, the other is the public welfare post of public institutions, and the other is me, the management post of public institutions.

Three people, two regular workers and one part-time worker, usually work the same, but their wages are several times different. We two full-time workers can get more than 3000 yuan a month, and we still get 2000 yuan a month. They pay more than 5000 points a month and pay five insurances and one gold in full. The employee in that public welfare post only has a fixed salary of 2,000 yuan a month, no performance or other bonuses, and only five hidden benefits.

In fact, everyone's ability is similar, college degree or above, doing the same job, but the salary and welfare difference is about three times. In fact, this is a very unfair social phenomenon, but now all public officials have to pass the exam, and the establishment, in-preparation and non-preparation are different, and the gaps are very obvious.

The employee in the public welfare post in our department often works hard and doesn't complain much, but he is depressed every time he is paid wages or performance benefits.

So I reached an understanding with another regular employee, and never mentioned anything like salary and welfare in front of him, but I can still see that he is disappointed in many cases, and his work enthusiasm is getting lower and lower as time goes on. Unequal salary and treatment is the direct reason that affects his enthusiasm for work.

Therefore, I hope that the country will see this unfair phenomenon as soon as possible and find a solution to the problem of unequal pay for equal work as soon as possible, so that every hard-working worker can get corresponding income and social treatment.

Every year, many people sign up for recruitment in public institutions. The ratio of good job recruitment often reaches several hundred to one. A few days ago, a friend told me that county institutions recruited more than 60 people and more than 2,000 people signed up.

Because of the establishment, being admitted is equivalent to holding an iron rice bowl. If you don't provide recruitment, the registration situation will be very different. In institutions, there are three points about the experience of no preparation:

Whether it is compiled or not, the biggest difference lies in the salary. No, except the basic salary, the performance of each month is symbolic. Although there are some subsidies, they are not much. This is not bad. Many of them are fixed wages, which directly indicates how much money they get each month.

If you have five insurances and one gold, those who are prepared will pay according to the highest proportion. If it is not compiled, the proportion is different, and some only provide five risks.

Without preparation, it is very important to have no sense of belonging. Although everyone is doing the same thing, but unprepared, they always unconsciously feel that they don't belong here.

On the one hand, because of instability, there is not enough protection. On the other hand, the idea that "this is just a transition, we still have to find a compilation" can't help but arise.

Without preparation, it means that promotion will never be your turn. Always working at the bottom, it is inevitable to feel inferior. The important thing is that there is not even an upward ladder.

When there are training opportunities, the staff in the establishment are allowed to participate first. Unit leaders will also focus on training personnel within the organization.

Some people have said that without the establishment, the unit is like "other people's children." The boss is very polite to you, but he won't treat you as one of his own.

In fact, even if there is no compilation, there are still many people to choose from. Yes, I want to feel the working environment in the system first and exercise myself at the same time, hoping to help me pass the exam. Yes, I want to work for a long time and may be included in the establishment. But now, if you want to get the establishment, you need to pass the exam.

Therefore, most people who are not prepared by public institutions will make the following choices:

Many people who are not prepared to work in public institutions regard it as a temporary transition period. See the right job advertisement and sign up. Unit personnel not only support, but also encourage those who are not prepared to take this kind of exam.

With the deepening of the reform of public institutions, job vacancies have appeared in many places. "Seize the opportunity and have a good review. If you can't pass the exam this time, just wait for the next exam "is the daily state of many employees who have not compiled." "

There are also some people who choose to jump out of the system and engage in other jobs. After all, it is not easy to get the establishment. Not compiled, the difference is too big.

What I want to say is, whether it is compiled or not, we should pay attention to improving our working ability. The ability to work has gone up, why are you worried that you will not be admitted to the establishment? Ability is your movable type signboard and the source of self-confidence.

A world of difference!

My former classmate, Zhang Wei, has been taking the civil service exam after graduating from college, but he failed many times and did not enter the civil service. However, Zhang Wei was particularly happy to be admitted to the government staff of public institutions.

After entering the company, Zhang Wei was responsible for the investment promotion in this area. His work content is the same as that of his colleagues, and he doesn't feel anything wrong. After working for a period of time, Zhang Wei found that the company only sent him a box of moon cakes during the Mid-Autumn Festival, and other colleagues were all soybean oil and flour, which made him very uncomfortable.

He went to the section chief to argue: "Why do I do the same job, but the pay is so poor?" . The section chief couldn't answer falteringly. "It's not that I don't know, it's just the unified welfare above."

Zhang Wei also found that in the unit, he was always treated unfairly, with the most work content and opinions ignored. At the end of the year, he was even less when evaluating outstanding employees.

He resigned after working for a year, and he is still working hard in the civil service. So what's the difference if there is no establishment?

In China, career preparation can be divided into three types: participatory career preparation, full funding career preparation, differential career preparation and self-supporting career preparation. Each organization has management posts, professional and technical posts, logistics posts, etc. And management positions can be upgraded, such as clerks, chief clerks, section chiefs, etc. Technical posts and logistics posts can be based on professional titles, such as intermediate titles and senior titles. Non-staff personnel have no room for promotion and can only be at the clerk level.

Although there is also the risk of being dismissed in the career establishment, the probability is very small. Unless there is a violation of discipline at work, there is generally no risk of dismissal. However, if the non-staff personnel do not work hard, or the organization makes adjustments, there is a risk of terminating the contract.

There are complete welfare benefits, performance pay, housing provident fund, housing provident fund subsidies, and occasional small bonuses at the end of the year. However, non-staff personnel usually have no complete welfare benefits, the same welfare benefits as ordinary company employees, and no special treatment from public institutions.

I am 35 years old. I want to share my experience since I graduated from college, and give it to those who are still worried about whether the organization has been established.

I graduated in July 2005, majoring in accounting and good at computers. My dream of graduation is to make a difference in the outside world. But because many things didn't go to the outside world for the first time, I went to work in a public institution in my hometown in 2007. I didn't make it up, thinking that I would become a full-time employee in a year or two, but for various reasons, I haven't changed it to 10 year. With the development of mobile Internet, I have a job with my friends. A year later, I was invested by a boss in Shenzhen to open a company in Shenzhen, so I asked for leave from the company and went to Shenzhen. A month later, the company urged me to come back to work and said that I could become a full member. I struggled for a long time and finally came back. After I came back, for various reasons, I still didn't become a regular employee. 14 years, one month before I turned 30, I couldn't face my present situation and made a resignation report, which was completely consistent with the past seven years. I chose to come to Shenzhen again, stayed in Shenzhen for two years, and felt that I was exposed to this era. Due to various reasons of age, it is difficult to catch up again. 16, the institution in my hometown recruited, passed the exam and went back to my hometown.

Let me talk about it now. Is there a difference between editing and not editing?

There will be a difference of almost half between the treatment of editing and non-editing. The position of the unit mainly depends on how the person in charge of the unit thinks you are not editing.

Those who meet the following two conditions can choose non-staffing positions in public institutions.

1. I have no ability, just want to muddle along.

2. Related to the legal representative of the institution.

Give some advice to people who have dreams like me!

When you are young, you should fight for your dreams, and don't spend your youth in these unedited units. People's youth is very short, maybe only ten years. As long as young people have dreams, even if they don't have academic qualifications, as long as you are willing to work hard, their lives will be much better than those who are not compiled in the unit. If you don't have the will to fight, you should study hard, and don't edit in the unit, people will become decadent.

Don't think about studying hard to take the exam in an unedited unit. No other unit will make you decadent, and you will do all kinds of things that others don't want to do. You can choose to go to the outside world and suffer from the outside world, which may deepen your motivation to study hard.

If I work in a public institution without "establishment", I will always be in the experience of "envy and bitterness". Don't ask me why I know, because I used to be a "establishment" person.

The first is envy. In fact, working in a public institution, the biggest gap between those with and without editing is not salary, but various subsidies and invisible benefits such as five insurances and one gold. Envy is to envy their welfare treatment. In my city, generally speaking, the monthly salary of newly-hired staff in public institutions is about 2,300-2,800, and at the end of the year, there is also a performance appraisal salary of 500-600/ month, while the salary of ordinary temporary employees is about 2,800-3,300 according to the length of service and education, including the personal part of the five insurances, so the salary difference will not be too much. However, employees in the company have subsidies such as cooling fee, barbecue fee, telephone fee and post allowance. Plus the year-end bonus salary. The subsidy is about 5,000 yuan, and the year-end award is about 20,000-30,000 yuan, which adds up to more than 30,000 yuan. Together with the paid provident fund and social security, it is estimated that the total income will be more than double that of the company. This income gap is absolutely enviable.

The second is jealousy. I'm not jealous of a single salary. After all, income is only one aspect. It is understandable that you can't get less points if you don't pass the exam, but the huge gap in promotion and development is still enviable. For example, a cadre who is officially editing can take the rank of career editing if he is in a comprehensive management position, and the title if he is in a professional and technical position, but you, an "unedited" person, will never see your own development prospects. Even what people who are not prepared do in the unit is only marginal business work. Units rarely give core business such as finance, personnel and capital. To a non-working person. Although I know that this has nothing to do with trust and distrust, I still feel unbalanced when I am treated with colored glasses, but those cadres who have staff can always come into contact with the core work.

I am currently working in a municipal institution. Let me talk about some of my experiences.

Our unit is a public welfare second-class difference distribution unit, 100 people, half of which is compiled. There are mainly three types of personnel in the unit: staff, contract workers and dispatched workers. The staff in the company signed an employment contract with the unit, which was officially recognized as a public official by the state after being filed by the Personnel Bureau; Contract workers are labor contracts signed with subordinate enterprises of this unit; Dispatcher is a labor contract signed with a third-party talent company and sent to work in our unit. Relatively speaking, non-staff personnel have a poor sense of belonging. No matter how many years I have worked, I always feel that I am a second-class citizen of my unit.

Our unit receives equal pay for equal work. Whether it is staffing, contract or dispatching personnel, although the names of salary items are different, the total salary is similar, about 4000-6000 a month. Because it is a balanced distribution, unit performance is also divided according to the contribution of individual work, both inside and outside employees.

There are three main differences:

At present, the reform of public institutions is in full swing. When it comes to reform, the biggest fear is the diversion of personnel. Although the reform has a considerable impact on employees, the impact is limited and the possibility of breaking the iron rice bowl is very small. For our supernumerary staff, it's hard to say. I hear all kinds of reform news every day in the unit, and I am treading on thin ice for fear that I will be changed accidentally.

In short, in public welfare institutions, it is best to have a staff member, and there is basically no need to worry about treatment and unemployment. Non-staff personnel basically have no chance to become full members. If the welfare benefits are equal pay for equal work, you can still stay. It doesn't matter whether the contract is good or not, as for the self-supporting unit or the unit that will be transferred to the enterprise soon. According to the current situation, all of them will become employees after the restructuring. I think it's an opportunity. It's good.

There are two situations: one is "temporary supernumerary personnel", who are regular employees, but because of overstaffing, reduction control and other reasons. , it temporarily out of the staff; The other is "supernumerary personnel", including temporary workers, contract workers, personnel agents and labor dispatch workers in public institutions. For the formal employees of party and government organs and institutions, the establishment is very important. For non-staff personnel, it is an insurmountable high wall, cutting off the road of life development and the source of income adjustment.

The establishment of government agencies and institutions has various classifications, and its complexity is difficult for most public officials to understand. Even if they have their own preparation, it is estimated that six or seven out of ten people don't know what kind of preparation it is, what degree of protection it has, what role it has, and what is the difference between different preparations.

The most important classification of institution establishment is based on financial support. There are three categories: full amount, difference and self-supporting. Among them, the full amount and the difference are the formal establishment types stipulated by the organization establishment department, and the self-supporting system belongs to the filing system. Like self-made and self-made preparation, it is a local self-made preparation type and another important type of preparation classification of public institutions.

According to the functions undertaken and the nature of preparation, it can be divided into participation management preparation and non-participation management preparation. The management of participating in public service refers to the management with reference to the civil service law, and its identity is basically the same as that of civil servants. Corresponding to this classification, in the classification reform of public institutions, public institutions are divided into administrative categories, public welfare categories (public welfare category I and public welfare category II) and production and operation categories. Participation in public service is the preparation used by administrative institutions, full preparation is the preparation used by administrative and public welfare institutions, differential preparation is the preparation used by public welfare institutions, and self-supporting and other self-defined preparation is the preparation used by production and operation institutions. At this point, the classification type is a bit confusing. The above statement can only be said to be generally correct, but there will be omissions and mistakes in subdivision. There is no one-to-one correspondence between the number of staff and the intensity of management in different places. For example, public welfare and administrative institutions have both full-scale career establishment and self-supporting establishment. It is very common that there are both public servants and public servants.

For on-the-job personnel, or college graduates who participate in the recruitment of public institutions, if they want to become official public officials, they must first find out whether to use formal preparation or local self-preparation; Whether it is the preparation type of provincial financial transfer payment and unified support, or the preparation type of local financial self-support.

Although the preparation is for personal use, it is of little significance to individuals, and it is of greater significance to local governments and financial departments. Compilation is mainly used to distinguish the ways of financial support. Staffing personnel belong to provincial financial support personnel, whose wages and expenses are guaranteed by provincial financial departments, while self-edited and supernumerary personnel are supported by local finance. This is the greatest significance of the establishment, especially for the economically underdeveloped areas in the central and western regions. As far as individuals are concerned, as long as they are regular employees, even if they are temporarily "non-established", whether they are provincial finance or local finance, their wages and funds will not be less. They will receive 3000 yuan a month, and employees will not care whether the money is provided by local finance or supported by provincial finance. As for some benefits such as bus subsidies received by staff, non-staff members can't enjoy them. These are temporary, not absolute. )

For individuals, the most important thing is to ensure that the headcount they use is the formal headcount type approved by the organization headcount department. Secondly, we must ensure the "four correspondences" of institutions, staffing, posts and personnel, and we must not mix posts. The Regulations on the Administration of Organization Establishment stipulates that administrative departments use administrative establishment and logistics establishment, and institutions use full establishment and differential establishment. It is also called "special compilation of politics and law" in administrative compilation and "special compilation of education" for primary and secondary school teachers in career compilation. These are formal compilation types. Self-support, self-definition, self-improvement, filing system, etc. They are all self-defined local governments, which are self-approved, self-collected and self-used, and there is no guarantee.

In the party and government organs, the cadre status uses the administrative establishment, and there is also a "military-to-civilian establishment" for cadres who have been transferred from military to civilian. It is illegal to use career establishment, that is, "institutional establishment", not to mention other filing systems and self-establishment. The use of "attendance system", administrative system and career system by party and government organs belongs to "mixed posts" and is also illegal.

As for public institutions, whether they are cadres or workers, whether they are public officials or pure public officials, they are all prepared with careers. As far as preparation is concerned, there is no difference. The difference between cadres and workers lies in their different positions. The management posts and professional and technical posts of public institutions are cadres, and the ground jobs are workers. There is a difference between management mode and undertaking function. The most important thing for institutions is to distinguish the types of financial support. If it is a public institution that undertakes public welfare services and administrative assistance, it should use full preparation, and there is a problem in using the difference preparation; If it is in public hospitals and other institutions with production and operation income, it is normal to use the difference preparation, but there is a problem if you use the self-supporting preparation. Production and operation institutions will soon be transformed into enterprises. Even if you use the full amount, the difference and other formal preparation, it will not change the fate of changing the system with the enterprise, and the problem is even bigger.

The preparation and use are not standardized, and in daily management, there is no influence on individuals, only the preparation department itself has pressure. If you encounter institutional reforms, such as the new round of party and government institutional reforms started last year and the ongoing classification reform of public institutions, the impact on individuals will come out in the process of personnel transfer. In the process of bus subsidies and other benefits, subsidies, year-end awards, as well as job title evaluation and rank approval, it will also be manifested. On-the-job personnel can enjoy it, except for supernumerary personnel; In the staff can be converted into civil servants, can participate in official business, non-staff personnel are excluded. They are also regular employees, but their personal interests are not guaranteed because of a piece of paper preparation.

Institutions and institutions "must enter the exam", but for college graduates, they must keep their eyes open. Now, the exam has become a disaster. Even if it is stated in the announcement that "staffing is provided", it makes no difference to provide self-supporting staffing. If we say vaguely that "those who pass the examination will be given priority in editing" or "those who have time will be given priority in editing", this commitment is also ineffective. The grassroots are overstaffed, and the whole country is "controlling the reduction of staff". According to attrition and seniority, when will there be vacancies?

There is also a very bad news for the "temporary supernumerary staff" among regular employees, that is, in government agencies and institutions, the "endowment insurance system for government agencies and institutions" is implemented by the staff, not the "enterprise endowment insurance system" implemented by the staff. At present, regular employees are implementing the former regardless of whether they are compiling or not. If the collection and management of social security fees are standardized, there will be another restriction on the "temporary non-editing" personnel among the regular employees.

Writing so much is actually just listing some chaos in the establishment management, reminding on-the-job personnel, especially college graduates who want to obtain the establishment and use through public examinations, to pay attention to protecting their personal rights and interests and avoid being fooled without knowing. If there is any way to solve it completely, it is nothing more than management norms and information disclosure, which takes time. For individuals, there is not so much life to waste, especially recruits. You can only learn more about yourself in peacetime and avoid being cheated.

I tell you from my experience that in institutions, there are civil servants, institutions and temporary workers. These three ways of employing people constitute a whole unit, which is a connecting link in every link. They seem indispensable. In fact, there is a big difference between maintenance and maintenance.

Unorganized people are usually the inferior people in the unit. The treatment is like a bowl of porridge they give beggars, which can be thick or thin, making you hungry and starving.

You are the busiest in the unit. As long as it is a regular worker, you can arrange work. If you hesitate a little, you will complain. Do you dare to refute? Don't forget that they have an establishment. You may go to work today and be fired tomorrow.

Your writing style is good. All the materials and documents of the unit have passed through your hands, and the leaders praised them after reading them. Pat your thigh straight. Then have a sip of tea and talk to you slowly. You have a good literary talent and a positive working attitude. When you have a preparation, you must work hard to absorb you and work hard.

You are very eager to be appreciated. Work harder and harder, and you will get used to it. Because more than one leader has said this, and he didn't keep his promise until he was transferred.

The Chinese New Year holiday is your most embarrassing time. People come and go to move home with big bags and small bags. There is no room in the car, shouting to give it to others. On your way home with two small bags of welfare food, you have to take out some money from your meager salary to buy some items as the welfare of the unit to make your wife and children happy.

When you are old, you can retire. Look at your five insurances and one gold. Similarly, once I retire from work, some people have more than half as much money as you, because they have more money than you.

After retirement, the retirement salary is not enough to meet the slightly higher quality of life. You got another job, sweeping the floor at the airport. Seeing former colleagues flying around and bringing you some small gifts, you thought to yourself, when can you go and play several times?

Cry if you want, don't just hang around unprepared, find a place where you can respect yourself. This is my wisdom.

The salary of contract workers without temporary employment is generally low, and the unit will also pay pension and medical insurance for you, but the base is very low.

The salaries of staff in public institutions are based entirely on their qualifications and professional titles. There is no such thing as equal pay for equal work. But if young people want to join the ranks, they need to spend more time studying besides doing their jobs seriously. When the ranks are awarded, you need to pass the exam and choose the best candidate.

Good luck getting started quickly.

It's not necessarily a bad thing not to make up, sometimes it's more comfortable not to make up than to make up.

First of all, there are differences in tooling wages, but in fact, there is no shortage of income.

There are two drivers in our unit, both of whom are from the army. Lao Meng is in his fifties, while Lao Wang is under forty. Indeed, in terms of the salary of tooling, Lao Meng is an established government worker, and was rated as a senior worker, earning more than 6,000 yuan, while Lao Wang is an unorganized contract worker, earning more than 4,000 yuan. It seems that Lao Wang is in pain, but it is not.