Professional managers talk about MBA career planning

On the employment topic of mba, whether you can find a job is not the key. What is important is how to find a career development path suitable for mba. I want to be a professional manager and have my own business, which is the answer of most MBA students to their career planning. However, this is not a perfect answer. Before entering business school, MBA students still have many questions to ask themselves. Last weekend at Fudan University School of Management? Campus open day? (openday), the topic of career planning became one of the topics in the forum that day.

An Mba is not an investment.

Speaker: Hong Ling, ceo of China Human Resources Network.

Three problems before career planning

When you make up your mind to spend a lot of savings to get into a prestigious school, what is your career goal?

What is your goal in life?

Do you know your current organization and the organization you are going to or the organization you are going to start? What is its goal?

These are three questions that Hong Ling put to mba and prospective mba on the spot. What are your career goals? Many people are confused; What is your goal in life? Perhaps it is a personal matter, but many people can't describe it clearly; You work in an enterprise every day and are awake for almost half your life, but you have no idea what this organization is going to do and why you are in it. If you can't answer these three questions, there will be no career development plan.

How to set career goals for yourself? Hong Ling's advice to mba students is that mba career planning is no different from undergraduate and junior college students. There are two basic questions: What do you want to do? What are you good at? After such a goal is established, it is possible to determine further life goals. At the same time, mba needs to combine its professional goals with the organizational goals of the enterprise. People who don't even know the organizational goals can't be excellent managers.

Sometimes there is a contradiction between what you want to do most and what you are good at. What you are best at is related to thinking structure, knowledge structure and ability structure, but what you want to do most is not necessarily what you are best at. Hong Ling said that if what you want to do most is not consistent with what you are good at, it depends on whether you pursue what you want to do most as always. If you have this passion and courage, you should stick to it.

Mba is a consumer product, so don't expect too much.

199 1 year, and the average rate of return for buying and renting a house is 3 to 4 years. It takes about 30 years on average to recover a house now. What is the investment of mba? When there was no mba concept in all domestic institutions, a business school, China Europe International Business School, appeared. At that time, the tuition fee in Central Europe was about 6.5438+0.2 million yuan, and it was paid back one and a half to two years after graduation, which was a high rate of return during the period of rapid economic growth. But now that tuition fees have risen a lot, there will be employment problems after graduation from business school. Facing this reality, what do you want?

Nowadays, many people still regard mba as a stepping stone to their career development, with high investment and high return. But if the return time of mba becomes XX years or even longer, will they accept it?

In this regard, Hong Ling believes that it should be readily accepted: Mba is a consumer product, not a luxury, but a high-end consumer product. Mba is nothing new for enterprises. Personally, don't expect too much from it. ?

It is not a correct attitude to evaluate the investment return of mba with figures and compare the salary income before and after mba. Hong Ling, for example, said that a large number of mba students who returned from studying in Britain and Australia for more than a year earned 8,000 yuan before going abroad, but only 4,000 yuan or 6,000 yuan after returning. But in fact, they have gained something: his language ability has improved, his dream of going abroad has come true and he has gone abroad to study. If there is another temptation for him to go abroad at this time, he may not go. Maybe he thinks the environment is not what he needs. ? We are on our own career path, I think we should look farther and have our own clear vision. ?

You are your own career counselor.

Career planning is very personal, and there is no standard answer. Many people are willing to seek the help of some consultants or career counselors. In this regard, Hong Ling's suggestion is that there is such a need, but the level of professional consultants should be distinguished.

? Without enough experience, it is difficult to play the role of a career counselor, and I don't consider myself a career counselor for teachers. ? Despite decades of experience in human resources, Hong Ling believes that career counselors can only play a guiding role and help individuals make their own judgments and choices. No matter how good a career counselor is, he can't say that he made a judgment today, and he will still do so ten years later.

Regarding the current situation of some career counselors, Hong Ling said that career counselors will not teach you some job-hunting skills, and if you learn these skills, you will be successful. At present, some career counselors have no enterprise experience, so real career guidance can only be based on your own considerations and professional advice. But in the end, only you are your own career counselor.

A banker is a seven-year adult.

Speaker: Yu Jin, director of Citigroup and head of China Human Resources Department.

People in human resources have questions.

Bank hr does not need a bank background.

At the lecture site, many hr expressed that they wanted to join Citigroup or other well-known financial institutions as human resources, but they were worried that they would be? Bank background? This pass is stuck. For this, Yu Jin explained it with his own personal experience: When I first came to Citigroup, I had no banking background at all. 1979 1983 graduated from junior college. My first job was as an English teacher in Hangzhou, then as a translator in Ningbo Foreign Affairs Office, and later as a secretary and deputy director for 7 years. It happened that Citigroup wanted to move its China headquarters from Hongkong to Shanghai, and I needed some people, so I came. It took me a year and a half to choose my favorite job, so I chose HR? According to Yu Jin, most of Citi's hr majors have nothing to do with banking. The two executives recently hired by the company have no banking background. One of them is an executive in charge of compensation. He comes from a company that produces integrated circuits.

It seems that as long as you learn hr skills, you can theoretically operate in every company. Hr is omnipotent, but what really doesn't work is the product. ? Management methods are different, but many management methods are the same. So when we invite people, we don't mind inviting people from other industries. ? Yu Jin gave some advice to hr without banking background: first of all, be sure to read the book well. Generally, these positions require master's degree or above, as well as mba and doctoral degrees. For college students, if there is an opportunity, it should be helpful to find more investment banks and consulting companies and do some internship work during the holidays. ?

Want to be a management trainee at Citi?

Citi's open recruitment standards

Yu Jin said that in the United States, although many positions of Citigroup are white, the company emphasizes that some positions should have female employees, ethnic minorities, blacks, Asians, or Latinos. The same is true of multicultural and multi-ethnic Shanghai. ? Many of our employees are not from Shanghai, but from all corners of the country, and Citi's reward system is based on performance first. ? According to the reporter's understanding, Citi recruits trainee management students from campus for a period of time every year, and they are likely to become a member of the company in the future. ? At Citigroup, we often talk about benchstrength (? Bench depth? ) the word, recruiting trainee managers, is also to strengthen them? Bench depth? Provide a good talent pool for the company's future development. ?

Yu Jin mentioned that many trainee management students applied for keysuccessfactors, which made the audience very useful. The reporter roughly summarized that there are 1 1 points:

1. Attitude is everything. Take the initiative to do something instead of being asked to do it.

2. Have very good communication skills and interpersonal skills. Yu Jin particularly emphasized that this does not mean mastering the language. He said: I know that many students take English and interpretation certificates in their spare time. That's not what I mean, but that you should have very good expression skills and communication skills. ?

I promise to strive for success, be good at controlling myself, and willpower and perseverance are very important.

4. Team spirit. Yu Jin said that there are very few stars in the financial industry, because every business and every transaction is taken by a team.

5. Be innovative.

You must have enough interest in banking, so that you can turn your job into a career.

7. Emphasize the potential of personal future leadership.

8. Professionalism is very important to Citigroup.

9.？ Honesty? This word is promoted as a key word everywhere, and Citigroup is no exception.

10. The spirit of customer first.

1 1. Strong ability to adapt to changes. Yu Jin said: When employees reach a certain stage in Citi, there may be bottlenecks. If there are jobs in Beijing at this time, they may go to Beijing. If you can't move because of your family, boyfriend or girlfriend, you may lose your development opportunities. ?

What kind of future does Citi give its employees?

Career development and planning of bankers

? If you pull the rubber band, you can't pull it to a certain extent, otherwise it will break. But Citigroup emphasizes stretchedearly, which is also a big difference between foreign-funded enterprises and domestic enterprises. An employee, he can do post A, and Citigroup will let him do post A plus post B, let him do the post that he can't do at present, and develop his potential. ? Morning? It means that it takes an employee eight years to do a job, but the company may let him do it in six years. Another way of saying it is that people don't need to doubt, and people don't doubt. We think someone can be president, so let him be president. ? Speaking of this, Yu Jin specifically mentioned the investment bank that everyone is most interested in: investment bank is the first choice of many people. Investment banks generally start from the bottom. Many employees of investment banks or consulting companies work seven days a week and n hours a day, which is very hard. ?

An audience at the scene asked: How long does it take a person to become a talent in the financial world? Yu Jin briefly introduced the career development of bankers: in banking, it takes about seven or eight years for a person to truly become a successful person. After employees enter the company, they will go through a year of training and work. From the second and third years, we can roughly know whether this person has development potential, and then decide whether to continue investing in him. Basically, we will start in five to seven years. Early stretching? . In terms of age, when a graduate student graduates, he is about 25 years old, plus 7 to 8 years, and the maturity is almost in his early 30 s. People of this age know what they want to do, and the most important thing is to know what they can do. The company will entrust them with an important task. ?

Where is your future after entering a company? Many people will say, go in and look for it. At the beginning of entering a company, people have high expectations and describe their grand plans perfectly, but there are usually some gaps in reality. Yu Jin said: Citi has a special talent pool evaluation system, which gives employees a formal evaluation once or twice a year to understand their development. During the performance appraisal, we always ask a question: What do you want to do and what is your next step? That's what I just said: you must do what you are interested in. If your job is not your own interest, then your future development will be limited. ?