What is the salary level of an ICS controller (internal control specialist) at a Siemens subsidiary factory (Tianjin)?

In general, Tianjin Siemens is okay. This is compared to other companies. You must not think of Siemens in Germany. The difference is really too big. You can classify it according to the two companies. Understand that the main difference is a human problem. Siemens in Germany is a German culture, and Siemens in Tianjin is a mixed culture. Give a specific example and you can think and judge it yourself. Of course, any example cannot represent the entire enterprise. It just gives you some information, and the details depend on your experience and thoughts. Tianjin Siemens has such a human resources manager Mr. KY (Mr. Kill You). He was recruited from Motorola after the previous human resources manager was transferred to Beijing. Motorola, you know, is the disbanded Motorola. He used to be an expatriate. Employees, employee relations. He took three months of personal leave just six months after joining (the probation period was six months). You may ask, can your boss agree to taking three months of personal leave when you first come here? These three months of personal leave are not applied for all at once, but for a short period of one week or two weeks, which all Chinese people understand. During his personal leave, he basically doesn't care about work. He doesn't seem to welcome calls to ask for work instructions. You can hear it on the phone. If you ask for instructions via text message, you have to wait. Some tasks can't wait, so you just do it. If you get it done, you are lucky. Okay, if you don't do it well, it means your performance is poor. In short, it has nothing to do with the manager (the reason why I say this is that what everyone sees is the result, and the result is that employees leave one after another, but the manager is quite tough). After going to work, he would come in late and leave early every day because he had something to do at home. To this day, he even said in the office that if anyone said that he would come in late and leave early every day, he would just leave. The door to his office is always closed, whether occupied or not. You have to rush to ask him for instructions, otherwise he will go home from get off work. You can calculate, in addition to the boss meeting with him or the manager meeting, how much time can you see him in the office and you can't find him or ask for instructions? That's your problem. The work is delayed and he finds fault with you. If you argue with him, he will find trouble with you. When you ask him for instructions on work, you never explain it directly and clearly. He talks for a long time and you can't hear the conclusion. I wonder if he doesn't explain it clearly on purpose or because your understanding is too poor. It is said that the manager should provide employees with work support, but all you can get from him is to show you a PPT from Motorola before, regardless of whether it is applicable or not (and don't think about how Motorola failed). He often says that a biting dog does not show its teeth. Indeed, he is very low-key on the surface and always keeps things tightly wrapped. You rarely understand his true thoughts. Every word he says is what is needed in the workplace. He will say, You need to spend more time with your family and take care of the elderly, but you will immediately say that this report will be handed over to him tomorrow morning. Of course, it is your business whether you do it at night or early in the morning; if you work overtime, he will say don't be too tired. It depends on how you understand it. In addition, when he spoke, there was no expression on his face, and his eyes seemed to be fixed. You can imagine this scene. When it comes to management, he often says that the department should hold a regular meeting once a week, but it can only be held less than a few times a year. He advocates more communication with employees at the manager's meeting, but he and his supervisor have no time for one-on-one communication. , because his time in the office is really limited, and he has to appear in front of his boss more often. He will say it openly and covertly, asking employees to communicate more with the boss, and personally demonstrate how to get into the boss's office by pouring him coffee. It is like a skit, full of emotion and emotion, and you may be entertained. But if you don't take action, it won't be fun. At the same time, he will give words, expressions, and actual encouragement to employees who flatter him, and criticize and realistically ignore employees who are straightforward. If he doesn't understand the situation, he will run away. Young female employees still have advantages and can make full use of their own abilities. Tianjin Siemens' personnel structure is such that it reports directly to the Beijing headquarters and reports to the Tianjin boss on business matters. This organizational structure is similar to other departments, and everyone in foreign companies can understand it. Let's put it this way, the manager from the Beijing headquarters doesn't come here even once every few years and only listens to reports on the phone, while the boss in Tianjin only asks about business, you know.

Do you think this is Siemens culture in Germany? I don’t want to comment on the senior management of Siemens. Maybe the senior management has the same difficulties as the senior management. Maybe the senior management is focused on the broader strategy. I also don’t want to comment on the human resources manager. After all, this human resources manager has recognized this reality and used his authority. , you have done something that is beneficial to yourself, and if you don’t do it for yourself, you will be punished by heaven and earth. Do you think it can be wrong? Perhaps this HR manager did not receive the warmth of his family when he was a child, which left a psychological shadow. In the future, he will always think extremely badly of others, making his colleagues and subordinates shudder. Be it loyal ministers, traitorous ministers or jesters, they have existed since ancient times. The reason why such a person can live a solid life in Tianjin Siemens can only show that the boss of Siemens and the Beijing HR managers still need him, and his existence is reasonable. Tianjin Siemens has recruited another person from Motorola as a manager. I wonder if this person was recommended by him. In the future, Tianjin Siemens may have a motorcycle gang and become the second motorcycle gang. I often read about cause and effect. The so-called good deeds are rewarded with good deeds. In fact, there are preconditions, or they are meant to comfort people. Do evil people get few benefits? Are there not many good people who are deceived? So if you want to ask Siemens whether it is good or not, you should know more about the real situation. You can only judge for yourself. Don’t think that it will be easy if you just want to earn a salary to support your family. Therefore, you should cherish the good managers you meet, especially those who have conscience and emotion. Manager, this is more important than any ability. Fortunately, Tianjin Siemens still has many righteous managers. My humble opinion. If netizens have other opinions, please correct me. Again, I have no intention of criticizing anyone, I am just expressing my personal views on reality regarding a certain phenomenon.