Will my passport be pressed when I work in the Philippines? What if I want to go back to China?

Almost all friends who come to work in the Philippines from China will encounter such problems.

That is, on your first day in the company, the company's administration or HR will take away your passport and visa.

Is this legal and compliant?

Is it legal for Philippine companies to detain passports and visas?

Generally, when companies take away passports and visas, they will say things like "unified custody" and "handling work visas". However, employees are always worried that if the treatment is different from what they said before, the company's promise will not be fulfilled. I want to leave my job at this time. What if the company doesn't give me the certificate?

What I want to say is that if the company cheats you, I can't solve it. After all, you never know what will happen in the future before you work in this company. Unless you have reliable friends who have already worked in this company, you can refer to it.

But it is legal and compliant for the Philippine company to take your passport and visa here. Maybe you will say that there is no company verification in China. At this time, your knowledge will be short. In some GOV departments in China, there are also bank employees, and their passports have also been detained by the competent units or departments. What you are worried about is the problem of illegal exit. You went abroad because the Philippine company was worried. Where can I find you? Domestic companies will not seize your ID card. Similarly, you can get a Philippine driver's license here in the Philippines as your usual ID card. (In the Philippines, you can fly with a Philippine driver's license, only in the Philippines)

When domestic bankers apply for Hong Kong and Macao passes or passports, the machine will prompt when it initially inputs personal information: You are a national staff member. What does this mean? Just ask if there is a bank endorsement. If the bank doesn't approve it, you can't apply for a Hong Kong and Macao pass and passport. Bankers belong to the filing staff of the Public Security Bureau. Compared with other industries, they are more vulnerable to the temptation of duty crimes, resulting in greater economic losses and significant negative effects. Most of them fled abroad after committing crimes, so the entry and exit management of bank staff is very strict.

Moreover, this bank is required to endorse passports and Hong Kong and Macao passes. At the very least, you must have the seal of the branch and the signature of the president of the branch. Multi-level signing is a tedious procedure. For bank employees, Hong Kong and Macao passes and passports are not only troublesome to handle, but also have strict storage requirements. For example, when you come back from a trip to Hong Kong, you usually have to hand in your Hong Kong and Macao Pass to the Human Resources Department of the branch within five working days. Therefore, the passports and passes of bank employees are usually not in your own hands, but kept by the bank. Once you leave the country, you should apply and hand it over to the human resources department as soon as possible. In order to prevent bank employees from absconding from duty crimes.

In fact, due to industry reasons, documents need to be managed by the company, which is also a rule. When you really need it, the company will give it to you. But when it comes to small companies, or scammers trick people into working in the Philippines, and then collect the claim fee by returning their passports, there is really no way out. So keep your eyes open before you come to the Philippines.

So what is the purpose of Philippine companies to keep passports? In fact, it is also for the benefit of the company. Because the money is paid, what will happen if you leave? What's more, the company does have many employees, and passports are very important documents. The company really needs to apply for a follow-up work visa for you to facilitate management. What should I do if I lose it?

The passport seized by the company will be returned to you if you say you want to leave your job, but the contract must be fulfilled. Generally, the contract term is one year, and some have paid a deposit. When the contract expires, I'll give it back to you if I want to leave. How can people who have not fulfilled their obligations due, such as those who have gone and gone, do this? Quite simply, the company requires you to compensate for the visa ticket expenses incurred in the process of handling it for you. You know, let's deal with Japan. Going out in Singapore costs tens of thousands of dollars, including all the expenses, so they don't have this kind of situation, but it is different in the Philippines. The wool is on the sheep, so don't be sad. Businessmen pay attention to interests, and you will encounter all kinds of problems in your past work. The reason why we work there is to make money, so I advise everyone who is doing it that working in the Philippines is still very hard. Now that you have chosen to work in the Philippines, be prepared for hardship. Don't be wronged and don't want to do it Remember what the purpose of going out is. If I can earn tens of thousands of dollars a month in China, who the fuck will go abroad to work? Let's just say.

But sometimes the truth is far more than that, because there are some deceptive companies in the Philippines, such as those who used to do customer service, and they have all been promoted. They said the salary was 8 thousand, but the result was only 7 thousand. Some people who want to leave their jobs and lose money want you tens of thousands of dollars. Although I have never seen such a company, some friends have seen it. Some time ago, a dozen people went to the Philippines through an intermediary and found that it was completely different from what they said. They just wanted to leave, and something happened. They lost money. If a person doesn't lose money, he won't be allowed to leave. It's that simple. They called me later and asked me what to do. In fact, I have not encountered such a problem. I didn't know what to do, and I didn't know later. Again, everyone wants to go to the Philippines, so we'd better find someone we can trust. Although most companies there are quite good, it's hard to say when you meet a company that is cheating.

In the Philippines, in addition to the boss, some executives are all from their own. In fact, the rest are recruited from the past, including personnel. Some people are still new. There is no limit to personal freedom. Everyone is the same. You think you are a kidnapper and gangster, and there are so many employees in such a big building. Think about it. Can you really restrict personal freedom? Restricting personal freedom is at least a multiple of people. Use your head. You think it's pyramid selling, brainwashing you. Let me tell you this, spinach is so profitable. If I have money, I definitely want to invest in a spinach company. In addition, what is the basis for the company to make money? That's an employee. Without employees working for you, you limit the personal freedom of employees. Who will work for you? What the company wants is to work hard and make money. Those employees who used to hate the most. Employees who want to leave their jobs think that the company is run by themselves and used for tourism, and then say, what is the deduction to restrict freedom? You can return your passport if you pay the visa ticket. Remember, even if you want to leave, you won't be restricted in your personal freedom. Under normal circumstances, you will not be given a passport.

Anyway, many companies I have met have never met the kind of companies that restrict freedom and arbitrarily deduct money. If everyone meets them, it only means bad luck.

Supplement: Many people feel that passports have lost their freedom in the company. Many years ago, when China didn't need an ID card to take a train, he could actually go anywhere and stay in a hotel with or without an ID card. The Philippines was like China at that time. The electronic technology here is different. For example, if we go to a hotel, there is nothing here to scan documents like in China. Generally speaking, we only need to provide a photo of the first page of our passport. It is the same for us to fly in the Philippines. My friend, who travels a lot, either goes to the island or shoots when he is on vacation. No passport, but it's unimpeded. The Philippines is a place to protect personal privacy, so many places don't need to use documents.

After you arrive at the company, the company will also give you an ID card of the building, which can also be used as a valid certificate. The first time I stayed in a hotel, the other party asked for an ID card, which was an ID card. I used the ID card of the building. Later, I realized that the ID card does not refer to the building ID, but the identity documents, such as ID cards and passports, which are all valid documents. Later, when I stayed in a hotel, I gave him the photo of the first page of my passport directly. He needs to take a photo of his passport home page there before he can check in. Very few ultra-luxury hotels need the original passport. Many small hotels don't look at documents.

Even if you don't have a passport, we can go to the embassy to reissue it, and then go to the immigration office to reissue the visa. Without proof, it doesn't mean you can't go back to China. Many tourists have lost their documents abroad. It's still the same process, go to the embassy to reissue it, and then go to the immigration office. So the documents are kept by the company. You can not only get the certificate from the company, but also reissue it.

Some people say that the company will send someone to wait at the entrance of the embassy, and it will be very miserable if they are caught. In fact, it's all a bluff, and no one will guard against it. If you are worried, China has four embassies in the Philippines, Manila, Cebu and Lavag. You can go there by car or plane. I have a friend who met that kind of company, then went to the embassy to reissue his passport, and then went to the immigration office to reissue his visa. No more than a week.

Some people say that since this can be done, why do many people still need compensation when they return to China?

First, most of the compensators are actually newcomers. The old people have adapted to the environment and know the company here very well. You can usually stick to it. Newcomers think this way is very simple. In fact, it is not easy to be a company, and it needs hard work. Many new people came and couldn't adapt, and then they left. So the time is not long, I don't know anything here, I haven't even gone out to play, and I can't find anything in the southeast and northwest after going out. I have been to countless places in the Philippines and gradually became familiar with the general direction.

The second is fear of trouble. I told him the process. Unless an acquaintance takes it with him, he is unfamiliar and afraid of trouble. This is a common problem for everyone. After the payment is completed, you can get your passport and leave immediately, but if you reissue your documents, you must stay for a few days. People who left their jobs didn't like it here. It's really hard for him to stay in the hotel for a few days and then stay for a few days. Besides, many people don't have much money. If it were me, I could travel while waiting. Ha ha laugh

Third, the spirit of the contract, you were the one who left at the beginning, which is equivalent to your breach of contract. This money has to be paid, and most companies generally pay compensation reasonably, and you won't collect money indiscriminately, so naturally there is nothing to say. By the way, there are few people who have been fired from the company. Except for a few people who don't obey management. More than 95% of them left their jobs because they could not adapt to the environment.

There is no iron rice bowl in the world. Only when the company develops can employees develop, and people who do business have no iron rice bowl. So work hard.

Be careful when going abroad. Safety and reliability are the most important. You can leave a message if you have any questions.