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Is it really that bad to see a doctor in a provincial hospital?
In 2006, my daughter suffered an accidental humeral fracture, which our city hospital dared not handle. It was suggested that we go to Qilu. I went to Qilu Hospital, and people have already left work. A young man suggested that we go to the provincial hospital of traditional Chinese medicine. We went to the provincial department of traditional Chinese medicine and told us to have an operation. We are anxious as soon as we hear it. If a girl's scar is ugly after surgery, we went to the provincial hospital again, or told to have an operation, and we left again. I have no choice but to take my children back to Qilu Hospital. Because it was late at night, the emergency department asked us to go to the pediatric orthopedic ward to find a doctor. A very young man saw the film we brought and said that the child was still young and growing, so there should be no need for surgery. It's better to wait until their doctor goes to work tomorrow. In this way, we stayed and went to work the next day. One of their deputy directors seems to be a doctor, very young, in his thirties. He looked at the film and said that there were two options, one was surgery and the other was conservative treatment. Let us choose, we will definitely choose conservative treatment. The doctor took gauze and a hard plate for fixing and fixed the child professionally. Next to him are the students he took to study. According to the doctor, it is difficult to fix because of its special position. Another skill of this graduate doctor is that the shoulders are easy to move, so surgery is generally recommended. A month later, we went back to shoot a film. The bones were good and the board was removed. Special thanks to the doctors in Qilu Hospital. When the elderly are sick, we basically go to Qilu, and we feel that the doctors there are particularly skilled.
Last year, my father suffered from severe pneumonia. After treatment in his hometown, he came to Jinan for review. First, I went to Qilu Hospital. At that time, the registration fee for expert outpatient service was 100, which seemed to be the chief physician. I gave a CT form directly, and CT did it first. After seeing the CT results, the doctor directly suggested hospitalization. It is said that this pneumonia is still not good, and it needs inflatable treatment. Others say that it is necessary to puncture and take out unabsorbed inflammation for testing. I don't understand. Anyway, it's terrible. We agreed to be hospitalized at that time. However, because there was no bed at that time, the inpatient department asked to leave a phone number and go home to wait for a bed.
The next day we discussed it and took this CT result to the provincial hospital to re-register and find an expert. This doctor is an old doctor who is nearly 60 years old. I saw the CT film and said it would take some time for this kind of pneumonia to recover, but I have seen a marked improvement. Prescribed some medicine and asked me to check it after half a month at home. This situation does not require hospitalization. We immediately breathed a sigh of relief. According to the doctor, we went home to take medicine 15 days and went to the provincial hospital for reexamination. The situation is already very good.
If I had been hospitalized at Qilu Hospital after listening to the doctor's advice and continued to do various examinations and treatments, it would not only hurt the patient's psychology and body, but also cause unimaginable consequences of over-treatment.
Now that I have experience, I must go to the hospital more often in this situation, and the registration fee will cost more money. The same CT film, different doctors can see different results.
Which hospital is better, Qilu Hospital or Provincial Hospital? You can't simply generalize. After all, every hospital will have good doctors and quacks.
Let's just say. Most of the diseases can't be cured by provincial hospitals, so it is of little significance to go to Qilu Hospital. There is no need to go to a provincial hospital for diseases that Qilu Hospital can't cure.
If a disease is treated in Shandong province, provincial hospitals and Qilu hospitals are the last stream in the province. If the disease can't be cured, go directly to Beijing or Shanghai, otherwise there may be no way out for Beijing and Shanghai.
If we really want to say the difference, the main difference between the two hospitals lies in the scientific research strength of basic medicine, and scientific research has little to do with ordinary people in the laboratory and thesis stage. Qilu Hospital is backed by 985 University, a vice-ministerial level, and its scientific research resources are much better than those of provincial hospitals. There is no difference between the two hospitals if a real person sees a doctor.
Let me tell you some true stories!
Many years ago, my mother shook her arm when she was working in her hometown, and then her arm has been hurting. It hurts so much that I can't even lift it. Just after cleaning up at home, my parents came to my home in Jinan for a few days and looked at my arm by the way.
I have never been to a hospital before, but later I learned that Qilu Hospital and provincial hospitals are both good, so I am going to see Qilu Hospital.
Take my mother to see a doctor in the morning. There are too many people. After a few hours, it will be difficult to get close to us. Then the doctor asked a few questions, and we said where it hurts and where it doesn't work. Then the doctor said to arrange filming and said that he suspected that something had grown.
I'll go! Talking nonsense before filming, I was unhappy at that time and said doctor: can you talk before filming? The doctor also felt that what he said was wrong and didn't speak again!
Finally, the movie was arranged and nothing happened. Just prescribe some medicine!
Another time:
My mother, too, was always confused and couldn't sleep well, so I took her to Qilu Hospital. A male doctor in his fifties also asked what was going on first, and then he said it was overwork, which is what people of this age usually do!
I felt sorry for my mother, too, and then I wanted to do a ct or something, but the doctor refused to do it, saying that it was unnecessary to spend that money, so we didn't do it either!
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When my daughter was five or six years old, her right thumb became thicker. I was playing outside, near Qilu Hospital. I went there immediately. There were few people in the afternoon, so we waited in line for a while. We were asked to make a movie without saying a word, so I took the children to make it. After filming, I'm going to come back to see a doctor. As a result, the room smelled of smoke as soon as I entered, and the doctor quickly put out the smoke as soon as someone came in.
The doctor watched the film for a long time and said he couldn't see it clearly. Do another ct, 1000 yuan. I took the film and left without doing it.
The next day, I went to the Department of Orthopaedics of Chinese Medicine and found an acquaintance. I didn't spend 200 yuan to see it. It's nothing. I have kept it for half a year!
Another time:
When my youngest son was over two years old, he got up in the morning and complained about his knee pain. I thought it was calcium deficiency, so I went to the drugstore to buy some calcium supplements. After a day at home, he didn't get better. He had a good time in bed, turned around and left, so I took him to the provincial hospital.
We went at one o'clock in the afternoon, and there were people waiting in line at 4: 30 in the afternoon. We waited for hours and finally arrived. I went in with my children, and there was an old doctor in his seventies. I only said my number, and then the old doctor said, put the child on the bed and take off your pants.
I put my son on the bed, took off my pants and let the child stand on the bed. The old doctor looked at my son and said that there was something wrong with his legs, his feet and his flat feet!
Before I said what happened, the old doctor said so much, and then I said, the child's knee has been hurting for more than a day!
The old doctor added: loose joints, this can't be cured, don't let the children jump, don't exercise vigorously!
I was in a bad mood as soon as I couldn't cure it, and then I left without taking the case!
When I got home, I told my mother that she thought the old doctor was unreliable and asked my sister-in-law to find acquaintances in other hospitals. The next day, I took my son to see a doctor. The doctor saw that there was nothing wrong with his leg, and his feet were not flat. He also said that he might have learned it from people on TV. Leave him alone. Let's not keep asking him and leave him alone. As a result, we came out of the hospital, and no one asked him any good results! [Cover your face]
Another time:
My daughter learned to swim when she was seven years old and took ten classes at once. On the night she finished studying, I found a big bag on her little foot, which was as big as two or three centimeters. My mother said it might be swimming. I felt sick, so I took my child to the provincial hospital to have a look.
I also went in the afternoon and failed the operation. That is an 80-year-old grandmother. I'll take the child in and let the doctor have a look. The doctor's grandmother said: nothing, just go home for a week or so! I took the child with a grain of salt and left!
Going home for a week, the bag is not small at all. I brought a child again, but I met this doctor again. The doctor recognized me and said, you still don't believe me. I am embarrassed to say: I didn't go down, I want to come back for a B-ultrasound! The doctor's grandmother said, don't worry, I'll be fine in a week or so. If you don't believe me, then do it!
I still took my children to have a B-ultrasound, and nothing happened. I went home and waited, but it got smaller every day, and it really disappeared after a week!
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Intussusception when my son was one year old. First, he went to the women and children's hospital. The doctor there said it might be intussusception. Let him go to a provincial hospital or a children's hospital. I went out to take a taxi to the provincial hospital.
In the evening, I ran to the ward with my baby in my arms. The person with the rash asked me to go to the ward for a doctor, so I took the baby to the ward for a doctor.
Along the way, I cried and found a doctor, a big boy in his twenties and thirties. The doctor asked us to do B-ultrasound first to confirm intussusception before minor operation.
Take the child to finish the B-ultrasound, and sign the operation responsibility letter when you see that it is intussusception. The doctor said that I would blow the intestines on the sleeves out of the child's ass, but this is a minor operation and there will be accidents. If my intestines explode, I'll have an open operation. At that time, I was scared.
After signing the operation order, I went to the ct room with the doctor. The doctor still looked at me and cried all the time, comforting me that most of them were fine and a few of them would be fine.
I didn't speak, but I cried. Then the doctor took out isolation gown and asked me to put it on. I didn't wear it either, so I held the baby in my arms and prepared to put it on the bed.
The doctor brought isolation gown to help me put it on and said, You all don't know the harm inside. Nothing you can do can stop it. You put it on. He said, get dressed and get out!
The doctor intubated my son, and he will be fine for a while. It's okay, it worked!
The doctor also gave us a good B-ultrasound acute rash list, and asked us to do another B-ultrasound tomorrow morning, saying that if there is no acute rash, it is estimated that there are too many people waiting in line.
We did it early the next morning, not bad. I thank this good doctor with my children!
In fact, there are good, bad, skilled and ordinary doctors in any hospital, but I think no matter what the doctor's medical skill is, as long as he treats with care, he is a good doctor!
The medical level of the two hospitals is basically the same, but the medical equipment of Shandong Provincial Hospital is not comprehensive enough. For example, after the blood test is completed, I will go to Wuyingshan North 90 Hospital ten miles away for a check-up and get it later ... This is very inconvenient. Qilu Hospital integrates doctors with sound medical conditions and is also an excellent doctor selected by medical schools all over the country. I feel that Qilu Hospital is a little better.
The instinct and duty of provincial hospitals is to cure diseases and save lives, which can be said to be the highest level in Shandong Province. Although the medical level of Qilu Hospital can be compared with that of provincial hospitals, it still pays attention to scientific research, which means that every detail from etiology to prevention and treatment will be studied and consulted. In this way, it is a bit slow to draw conclusions, but it is often more accurate. Personally, I think: if you know what disease you have, you can go to a provincial hospital for treatment; If you are not sure what's wrong with you, go to Qilu Hospital.
qilu hospital of shandong university
Established in 1890, it is a tertiary general hospital and a designated medical insurance hospital in Jinan. There are 68 clinical departments in the hospital, including cardiovascular medicine, hematology, obstetrics and gynecology, otolaryngology, general surgery, neurosurgery, gastroenterology, pediatrics, respiratory medicine, endocrinology, hepatobiliary surgery, urology, orthopedics and thoracic surgery, including 18 national key disciplines and clinical key specialty construction projects.
June, 5438 +2020 10, won the National March 8th Red Flag Collective against COVID-19 Epidemic. In June, 2020, 5438+ 10 was selected into the list of medical institutions with nucleic acid detection ability in Jinan issued by Jinan Health and Wellness Committee. In February 2020, it was included in the list of provincial civilized units in Shandong Province in 2020. In April of 20021year, the Department of Critical Care Medicine of Qilu Hospital of Shandong University was awarded the honorary title of "National Worker Pioneer".
Shandong provincial hospital
Founded in 1897 with a history of 123. Now it has developed into a large-scale comprehensive third-class first-class public hospital integrating medical treatment, scientific research, teaching, preventive health care and grassroots guidance. There is a central hospital and an eastern hospital, with an annual total of 4.42 million outpatient and emergency visits, with1860,000 discharged patients and10/70,000 operations. In 20 18, the hospital ranked 46th in China Hospital affiliated to Fudan University, and the comprehensive strength of East China ranked 14. "China 100 Top Hospitals" ranked 28th.
The hospital has many domestic leading technologies. As the only medical institution with various organ transplant qualifications in the province, the living donor liver transplantation technology in our hospital is leading in China; In the treatment of type I aortic dissection, minimally invasive transthoracic occlusion of ventricular septal defect and other technologies, China is leading; The application of escharectomy in burn depth has been widely promoted in domestic hospitals. Hearing reconstruction, ear nerve and lateral skull base surgery, and comprehensive treatment of ear vertigo are advanced in China; Assisted reproductive technology has reached the international advanced level.
Almost all of them. Now they are all students of medical universities, generally have doctoral degrees and even have a background of studying abroad. However, one thing is wonderful. Doctors are basically local in Shandong. In 1950s and 1960s, there were doctors in both hospitals, and there were many southern accents, but there were not many Jiaodong accents at that time. Maybe you can understand something.
Qilu is better. Now Qilu is a combination of scientific research, teaching and clinic. Provincial establishment is only clinical. So now Qilu is stronger in all aspects. Especially cardiovascular and cerebrovascular diseases, can be counted all over the country.
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