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Compared with Hangzhou and Nanjing, why are there so few well-known Internet companies?

Nanjing's economy itself is not very dynamic. A large number of state-owned enterprises rely on policy monopoly to make a living, but what they actually do is useless. As for Internet companies, one of Nanjing's software companies is Huawei outsourcing, and the other is government-enterprise projects. In fact, it is government information outsourcing.

It is normal that the industries that emerged from the Internet 20 years ago appeared in the most developed first-tier cities.

Hangzhou is an accidental exception. Therefore, Nanjing is normal without it, but it is abnormal with it. Of course, Suning and Tuniu are not well-known, and everyone feels the Internet.

However, although there is no homeland, there are many people who have settled. For example, Nanmo, Ericsson, Fujitsu and opera used to be. There are Foxconn, oppo, Huawei, ZTE and so on. There are also a number of good companies such as monster charging.

Nanjing, Suzhou and Shanghai take the road of state-owned enterprises, which are basically in the hands of the state. They won't starve to death, but they are also very valuable.

Hangzhou economy is too weak. Many military workers in Nanjing are invisible champions, and Nanjing plays with high technology.

Online, because Nanjing is real, it can only do industry, unlike Hangzhou, which can only play virtual, except Alibaba, which depends on online celebrities to live. [Look] [Look] [Look]

Well-known Internet companies in new york, please give an example.

There are no internet companies in Nanjing at all, and this climate is impossible. The only Suning is about to close down, and the industry and Internet are behind Hangzhou.

Hangzhou is also an Ali, and SHEIN in Nanjing is no worse than it. SHEIN earns foreign money.

Nanjing really doesn't want to cheat money

First, the atmosphere

Why is it that the advantages of computer major in Nanjing universities are so good, but social recruitment is from north to Guangzhou and Shenzhen, and it is easier for first-class college students to enter the software industry instead of choosing the Internet?

Personally, I think it's the atmosphere. Since college students graduated, some graduates have stayed in Nanjing for various reasons. When they were employed, the Internet was Tuniu, Suning, Focus and Household 365. There is also a Qian Bao, which was not discussed. Moreover, Tuniu and others have high requirements for fresh graduates, and few students have access to the Internet.

In terms of development, as mentioned above, the Internet in Nanjing is informal and the ability of employees is low. The level of the circle affects the level of the people in it. In two or three years, the development will not be very good, and the salary is not high, especially for graduate students, and the cost performance is even worse. Students who enter the software industry can get 20-30w after three years of graduate study (note that it is Nanjing). The rest can only go to the outsourcing industry, which is basically a workshop-style model.

Over time, the Internet atmosphere in Nanjing has fallen into a vicious circle, getting worse and worse.

Large companies (like Tuniu) failed to meet the requirements of the first-and second-tier Internet because they formed teams. It is difficult for new colleagues to change the already huge operating system, so they can't be expected to change this atmosphere.

Nowadays, many students start businesses as a team. The weakness of Nanjing is that college students don't have a good internship atmosphere like their classmates in Beijing and Shanghai, and they can learn about the responsibilities, development and open management methods of various occupations online. Because I don't know how to improve, I have to move forward in the dark or stand still, so it is more difficult to change anything. I have seen some college students' entrepreneurial projects in the park before, all of which are outsourced and use Jsp taught by the school. I don't know how to improve or how to improve. Technically, it's basically useless.

Recently, some first-and second-tier Internet teams have started businesses in Nanjing. The team has good leadership, good communication and staff development planning, starting from childhood. Only by spreading the management, technology and products of the internet can the atmosphere change.

Second, vision and thinking.

Vision directly affects the atmosphere.

Some colleagues who commented on the public went to google and facebook in the United States through the company's platform, and some formed a team and got the investment. However, employees in Nanjing rarely want to go to foreign first-tier companies to work for gold plating, and only some of them try their best to go to Ali and other first-and second-tier Internet. However, due to the lack of ability training in the original company, their entry level is often low.

Internet companies change lives, and the management styles of founders and core teams have a great influence on employees' thinking. After the merger, in the face of the departure of the management team, various memories appeared in the circle of friends. What I miss is free management, business discussion, data analysis and pride in the company brand. Our work has really changed people's way of life. In terms of brand, with the increase of exposure, Tuniu employees should still have a sense of pride, which needs to be taken.

Because of the horizon, employees in Nanjing, especially those who are outsourced, are particularly easy to satisfy. The salary and technical team are much better than before. The lack of company training or career promotion guidance makes most employees have little room for improvement if they don't transfer to management positions.

Third, management.

Traditional management and Internet management are somewhat contradictory. The management of Nanjing should be from Huawei to Suning and then to Tuniu. With the gradual convergence of personnel flow, it is finally a non-engineer culture. This culture leads to the fact that technology does not need to be very strong, but it is good to be obedient and capable.

In addition, large companies have clear kpi goals. In order to achieve the goal, only a large number of people are recruited. As mentioned earlier, few northerners go back to Nanjing, and the local traditional software industry doesn't want to go online, so most people can only recruit from outsourcing companies (not to say that outsourcing companies are not good). The level of these employees is mostly a melting pot, which can directly smooth out the piecemeal upward trend.

In technical management, the ability is supplemented by manpower. Take Tuniu as an example. Personally, it is estimated that the daily workload of two people can be similar to that of first-and second-line engineers. With the method of two tops and one, the salary cost of the company is higher than that of the first-and second-tier Internet. In such an objective environment, the Internet has no geographical barriers, and it is also a helpless move for companies not to fight and die.

"Not working overtime until 9 o'clock will affect the performance appraisal"

"You can't sleep during work hours and you can't just go out."

"Unable to surf the Internet, unable to use qq"