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For the low-rise residents of the elevator building, there has always been a struggle, that is, whether the residents at the bottom, especially those on the first floor, should pay the elevator fee. There are different opinions on this issue, each with its own reasons. So how is the opposite stipulated in our country? Is there a basis for charging elevator fees?

Recently, Mr. Liu, who lives in Hailongwan Community, Xinpu South Road, Panyu District, told reporters that he had a dispute with the property management because he had not paid the elevator fee for eight years. Mr. Liu said that he has never paid the elevator fee since he moved into the community in 2008. "I live on the first floor and never use the elevator. Why should I hand it in? " The elevator on the first floor leads to the parking lot. I don't have a car, and I haven't used it. I have to pay every month, which is unfair. "

Mr. Liu believes that the elevator should be "whoever uses it pays".

Yesterday, the reporter called the property management office of Hailongwan Community. The staff of the management office said that the elevator charges in Hailongwan Community were charged separately according to the floor height. "We 1 5 floors are low floor charges, and elevator management fees above 5 floors will be higher." In addition, the elevators in the community are also charged according to different types. For example, the elevator management fee of "one elevator and two households" will be more expensive than "one elevator and four households". How is the elevator fee in the community generally charged? Mode 1: Name of average sharing community for each household: Four Seasons Garden Address: No.246, Xihuadi Avenue Middle Road, Huadi Avenue, Liwan District Type: Newly-built garden community, building height 18 floor, underground negative parking lot. There are no residents on the first floor. The reporter consulted the property management of the community on the question of "whether low-rise residents charge less or not to charge elevator fees".

Guanguan, the regional housekeeper of Four Seasons Garden, said: "No matter whether it is a high floor or a low floor, the elevator maintenance fee and the annual inspection fee are shared equally and publicized once every six months. There is no community on the first floor of Four Seasons Garden, and residents including the second floor are used to elevators going up and down stairs. So far, there have been no complaints from residents about elevator management. " It is understood that Four Seasons Garden spent 87,930 yuan on elevator maintenance and annual inspection in the first half of the year. In addition to the monthly contribution of residents, a small part of the expenses are extracted from the paid services and advertising expenses of high-rise buildings owned by residents in the community. Method 2: Reasonably reduce the name of low-rise residential quarter: Guangzhou Steel New Town Address: Hedong Road 157, Liwan District Type: Residential quarter under construction (pre-sale), and Ou Mingxin, sales director of Guangzhou Steel New Town with elevator on the second floor, told reporters that most of the buildings for sale in Guangzhou adopt the unified charging standard for elevator maintenance, and the whole house shares the charges. After the completion of the residential area of Guangzhou Iron and Steel New Town, the stratified charging mode will be adopted. In terms of elevators, the daily elevator maintenance costs of low-rise residents will be relatively reasonably reduced.

"As long as the elevator maintenance fee is fair to the upstairs and downstairs, if you buy the second floor, you certainly hope to reduce it appropriately. Now you can buy a house and live and work in peace. " Mr. Huang, who came to see the house with his wife and mother, told reporters that when buying a new house, he had certain requirements for the elevator of the new house. He hopes that the sales office will provide detailed property charging rules including elevator fees. Mode 3: Charge per household area. Community name: Poly Central Plaza Address: Huanshi Road, Yuexiu District Type:-1 The 5th floor is a business place, the 6th floor is a business club and an overhead garden, and the 7th to 36th floors are apartment products. There are apartments on the 7th floor of Poly Central Plaza. According to the relevant person in charge of the property management office of Poly Central Plaza, the elevator maintenance fee of Poly Central Plaza is not charged separately by floor.

"We charge according to the size of each household, regardless of the floor height." The elevator electricity charge of Poly Central Plaza is charged according to the unified standard of power supply bureau. Citizens living on the second floor: whoever uses the elevator pays. Ms. Yi, who lives in Four Seasons Garden, said that she lives on the second floor, and she seldom uses the elevator except to buy a lot of things. "From a selfish point of view, it is of course good not to charge, but from a public interest point of view, it should still be charged. After all, it is impossible to build an elevator from the fourth and fifth floors. Sharing is necessary, but it may make sense to share less on lower floors. " Ms. Luo, who lives in Four Seasons Garden, said: "I live on the second floor now and once lived on the first floor. Personally, I don't think we should pay, and whoever pays will pay. Such an obvious principle of fairness cannot be easily ignored! The first floor is not used (elevator opportunity) and will not cause elevator damage. Why should I pay? Buying a house on the first floor has already borne the construction cost of the elevator. The dark and humid environment on the first floor itself has already paid for the elevator. " Citizens living in tall buildings: Every floor in the building has the responsibility to pay the fees. Ms. He believes that as long as she lives in the community, she should pay the elevator fee. "The security risk of theft at the top of the community is much smaller than that at the bottom. But we still paid the security premium like them (low-rise residents) and shared the expenses with them. The elevator is used by everyone there, and it should be * * * to bear the maintenance cost of the elevator. "

Ms. Tu, a citizen, also thinks it is necessary to charge elevator fees to low-rise residents. "I live on the 27th floor, and I think it is necessary to accept it. Just because you live on the 1 floor doesn't mean you don't have to get on the elevator. They sometimes need it when they stop by. In addition, if you must care so much, isn't it that every floor should be converted (cost) according to the height of the floor? "

Lawyer: It is customary to discount the elevator fee on the lower floors. Xu Jianwen, a lawyer of Beijing Zhonglun Wende (Guangzhou) Law Firm, said that there are three main ways to collect elevator fees from the owners on the first floor: first, the property company adopts a "one size fits all" unified standard fee, and the owners on the first floor and other floors charge fees indiscriminately; Secondly, according to the principle of "whoever uses the elevator pays", the owners on the first floor don't pay the elevator fee without using the elevator, and the elevators in some buildings don't stop on the first floor, so the owners on the first floor of this part of the building don't have to pay the fee; The third is to implement a preferential charging policy for the owners on the first floor. Among them, the third way is more common. Many owners on the first floor can get a 20% discount on elevator fees, and some can even get a 40% discount. Xu Jianwen told reporters that the law has not clearly stipulated whether the owner should pay the elevator fee, which was mainly agreed when the owner and the property management company entered into the property management contract.

But there is no basis for charging elevator fees. According to the property law, the elevator is a part of the building, and every owner has rights and obligations. The owner on the first floor can't refuse to pay the elevator fee on the grounds that he doesn't use the elevator, that is, "he can't give up his rights and fail to perform his obligations". Therefore, legally speaking, it is justified for the owners on the first floor to pay the elevator fee.

"My suggestion is to look at the provisions of the property management contract first, and then negotiate with the property management to choose a suitable solution to solve this problem." Xu Jianwen said.

(The above answers were published on 2016-11-08. Please refer to the actual situation for the current purchase policy. )

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