A community in Changsha issued 1 10,000 cash to the owners.

A community in Changsha issued 1 10,000 cash to the owners.

A community in Changsha issued 1 10,000 cash to the owners. Since 2065.438+07, when the Housing Industry Committee established the self-managed property, the public income has been in a profitable state. Changsha * * * and Shi Jia residential areas distributed 654.38+0.248 red envelopes for the first time, and citizens * * * took out 6.5438+0 million cash receipts.

On the morning of July 3, the reporter learned from Changsha * * * and Shi Jia Community that since 20 17, the community industry committee has set up self-managed properties, and the public income of * * * is in a profitable state, so the industry committee decided to spend12.4 million yuan for the community.

Changsha * * * He gentlefolk community

Give red envelopes to 1248 owners.

For the first time, the community distributed public income.

* * * Take out 654.38+00,000 cash.

Issued in Yiping, 6.4 yuan.

At ten o'clock in the morning, the reporter came to Changsha Yuelu District * * and Shi Jia Community Industry Committee. At this time, many owners are holding real estate licenses, waiting to receive benefits.

Write the reporter is now in * * and Shi Jia property management service center. As you can see, it mainly has the word "self-management", so we can see here that many red envelopes are put by our property and property staff, and the amount of red envelopes put here is different. There are also forms to be registered here, and every owner will accept them. This part of the public revenue will be handed over to our owners.

Ms. Zeng, the owner, said that since 20 10 moved into the community, the original property of the community has been mediocre, which not only often contradicts the owners, but also requires the use of public maintenance funds for every internal maintenance of the community, and even more whimsically takes out public income to distribute benefits to the owners.

20 17 under the organization of the industry Committee, the community advised off the property and decided to manage it by the owners themselves. So far, it has been well received by the owners for four years.

Using public income to build communities

Waterproofing of external wall of residential area has been repaired.

Start the rectification of fire hazards and create a livable environment

After taking over the service work of the community, the industry Committee found that the former property had huge problems in public income. Now, relying on public income, they not only upgraded the community, but also let the community owners enjoy this part of the benefits. Next, they will still use the benefits brought by the community for community construction and create a more livable living environment.

After taking over the community, the industry Committee first found that the annual public income was as high as 654.38+0.5 million, which was completely opposite to the attitude that the property frequently used maintenance funds to "cry for poverty".

Zhang Xinghua, member of Changsha * * and Shi Jia Community Owners' Committee: After we managed it, we found that citizens * * * made great profits. The first one is the parking fee. We have a parking lot in the north gate, and the parking in the community is about 6.5438+0.2 million a year. The second elevator advertisement is about 300 thousand.

In the four years since the takeover, the industry Committee has also used this income to upgrade the community.

Should the property management of the second residential area in Changsha pay 6.5438+0 million cash to the owners "self-management"?

If you want to manage yourself, you must first understand the difference between self-management and autonomy:

Self-management: represented by the owners' committee authorized by the owners' congress, the owners' committee employs professional managers and various outsourcing units and professionals to manage the community. Of course, you have to bear the risk yourself (owners' meeting).

Autonomy: refers to the property contract signed between the property management committee authorized by the owners' meeting and the property management company or other managers. The risk is borne by the other party to the contract, and the property management committee only serves as the responsibility and obligation of supervision and coordination.

Anyway, we already know the difference between self-management and autonomy. Now let's discuss why we should manage ourselves. Personally, I think that nothing more than the following urges us to work towards self-management:

1, no good property management company can be found, or a good property management company can't afford it.

2. Self-management can be decided by the owners (industry committees).

3. Management fee (commission) can be omitted.

4. Property fees can really be spent on the goals that the industry committee thinks.

5. We will not be "stolen" by the property to make various expenses. (But it is possible for the committee to spend money. )

6. The public income is not occupied by the property company, but it may be occupied by the industry committee. )

7. Committee members want to pay their own salaries, earn money, get some benefits and find jobs for relatives and friends.

Well, whether the above views are correct or not, let's consider the following questions:

1. Although the property law now gives the owners' congress the right to conduct self-management on behalf of the owners, it is really not that simple to make the owners' congress the main body of civil and commercial affairs in the market. Without this qualification, many problems are basically impossible to solve, such as water, electricity, gas, elevators, secondary water supply, boiler room and so on.

2. There are many special industries in the community, and many property companies can't manage them themselves. What should I do? Need to be subcontracted to professional institutions, such as elevators, septic tank cleaning, fire fighting, monitoring, access control, central air conditioning, fresh air system, boiler room, etc. These companies rarely sign contracts with institutions without civil subject qualifications.

3. There are also some public welfare projects in the community, such as elevator advertisements and light box advertisements. This is a little better. They give us money, but if people don't want to sign a project with us, it means that the owners' meeting will lose some money.

4. The members of industry committees in China have little experience, let alone experience in property management. Is it really reliable to be an amateur management expert?

5. The members of the committee are basically unpaid volunteers. Can they persist in managing the trivial matters of property for a long time? It is estimated that all members except the director should resign within six months.

6. Well, everyone says that we should hire an experienced manager, not to mention whether we can hire a good manager, because the manager wants to find a promising company, not a faltering industry Committee as a backer. Some people say they can find it, just say they can find it for the time being. Based on my years of experience, a property project needs at least 300 documents, systems, processes and forms, and this manager needs at least thousands.

7. As for the staff of property management services, there are about 20 people in the smaller community, and more than 100 in the larger one. How do you recruit and train these people? You said I could find them in advance, but I want to ask the owner if he agrees to bear the cost when the old property has not left. You can ask me, isn't there no idle people in the property management company at ordinary times? Aren't they looking for it now? Yes, but you forget that a property management company is more than just a project. They can seconde people from other projects to help in advance, and the personnel will be fully staffed one after another, so that the training can be called back.

8. In addition, neither the owners' meeting nor the industry committee has the ability to take risks. If something goes wrong, who will solve it? Is it obviously inappropriate to ask the owner to bear it himself? Some people say that insurance is necessary, but insurance is not everything, and all problems can be solved.

9. In addition, it can be considered that the self-management committee is riddled with holes in the community, so the first step is to invest a lot of money to improve the community. Who will pay for this money? Some people say that it is right to seek funding from outsourcing units, but problems also follow. First of all, who will pay for office furniture, household appliances, labor and energy in the first two months? The above words are easy to say. The advance payment shall be paid by the outsourcing unit as a legal entity. Without legal person qualification and mortgage, how many will give advance payment?

10, and then there are contacts and relationships. Someone said, what does this have to do with self-management? I said, of course it matters. Many resources and technical problems of the project can't be found by you, or you can find people who are willing to help you, as well as public relations maintenance of relevant departments. Are you allowed to have this expenditure in the owner's budget?

1 1. Finally, what should the owner and outsourcing unit do if they want an invoice? You can say to the tax bureau. Looks like you really haven't opened it. Let's not talk about it. Besides, I have to queue for half a day every day, and I have to go every day. You'll know if you can't stand it.

12 Of course, if you don't talk about the formalities, you can manage the residential property well if your industry committee or the residential owners are quite experienced, but there is still a problem here. As we all know, the owners of residential areas can allow the managers of property companies to get salaries, even high salaries, but they just don't allow the members of industry committees and owners to get them, hehe! Can this "master" continue without money? Besides, I have to put up with a lot of gossip.