What are the six big men in Shanghai squatting for more than 20 days downstairs in a residential area?

According to reports, "they stayed at the entrance of the building for almost 24 hours, and there were six big men in more than 20 days. I am very nervous when I go in and out, and I dare not let my children go out alone. " Mr. Zhu from Phoenix 1 Minhang District said that in the past month, a car with six people arrived at the door of the building. Although these people have done nothing out of line, their residents are very nervous and don't know when something big will happen.

Mr. Zhu and other owners have repeatedly reported to property management companies, neighborhood committees and community police, but the property did not dare to offend them. Neighborhood committees say they have no law enforcement power, and the police are also very embarrassed: "They have nothing to disturb public order, so it is not good for us to take compulsory measures."

Yesterday afternoon, the debtor told them that 502 households upstairs owed them 700 thousand. "When she gave me the money, we left. What we have taken out is real money, not breaking the law, and civilization is in debt. "

"How long did they stay downstairs? Some owners say it's two weeks, some say it's three weeks, and some say it's almost two months. I estimate that it should be no less than 20 days. " Mr. Zhu pointed to the Datong van parked at the gate of Building 109 and said that he was not easy to approach. "If they know that I called the reporter, they will definitely find me in trouble."

Like Mr. Zhu, there are many owners who are afraid of this van. A woman walking her dog said that she used to walk her dog around these houses. Since she got this car, she has basically changed the way she walks her dog. "Trouble, can not go or not. It's too late to hide such a thing. "

What happened?

According to Mr. Zhu, about 20 days ago, this car stopped at the door of this building. There was some noise at first, and there was a quarrel with 502 households. "The police came two or three times a day, and nothing happened. The police are gone. Unexpectedly, they confronted each other peacefully for more than 20 days. "

In the quarrel, Mr. Zhu and other car owners roughly figured out the situation: there are generally six lean men in this van who specialize in collecting debts here. According to these people, 502 families upstairs owe them 700,000 yuan. After several quarrels, 502 households did not go out, and the debt collectors stayed in the car for a while.

"That a few debt collectors don't go, we can be nervous. Strangers, big shots, six people, guarding your door every day, will you be nervous? " Mr. Zhu said that in the past, children came home from school by themselves, so don't worry. Recently, he has to worry about delivering it in the morning and picking it up in the afternoon. "We dare not stay at the entrance. We opened the door and went in, and the door was tightly closed. In short, I am afraid that I can't say it clearly. "

Owners told reporters that the year is approaching, and everyone hopes to have a peaceful year, and nothing will happen at home.

Yesterday afternoon, when the reporter came to Shi Hao Phoenix 109 again, the Datong van was still there. The car door is closed, there are several groups of used paper towels outside the window, and a small amount of other domestic garbage. The reporter slapped the car door, and a young man with a lot of hair and a slender scar on one side of his scalp pushed the car door open, and a warm smell came face to face.

The reporter saw four people in the car, some seats of the eight-seat van had been laid down, and two people were taking a quilt for lunch break. The young man briefed the reporter on some situations.

Man: It's winter, and it's nothing. Who wants to stay here? It almost killed me. I can't eat well and sleep well. I can't remember how long I've been here now, because we often change people.

Reporter: How much does this family owe you?

M: The boss said it was 700,000.

Reporter: Are you a specialized lending company?

M: No, we have our own company. Boss does business, 700 thousand cash. She gave her real money, but she didn't pay it back. Cheating.

Reporter: How long has it been owed? Why not go to court?

Man: How long should I know? The boss called us and we came. Even if the lawsuit is filed, it will not be returned. The court imposed a high limit on her expenses. She transferred all her property. The company used to be in Songjiang and she filed for bankruptcy. Then her father moved the company to Xitang. The court could do nothing about her.

Reporter: When will this wait end?

Man: We'll pay and leave.

Reporter: You have been here for a long time, and the residents of the community have opinions. Do you know that?/You know what?

Man: Why don't you know? The police have been here many times. We haven't done anything illegal. We are civilized, we want debts, and we won't provoke anyone except those who owe money.

Reporter: How do you solve these basic problems by squatting in the car for a long time, eating and drinking Lazar, washing your face and brushing your teeth?

M: That's easy to solve. We have another car here. Let's change shifts and solve it. Stir-fry a few dishes at the door for dinner, and everyone can help themselves. We are so bitter, but the debtors sit at home and enjoy themselves. She found three people to accompany her, and a whole box of yellow wine and white wine was moved upstairs.

Yesterday afternoon, the reporter came to the door of 502 households and saw that the security door was covered with filth, yellow and dry, and the bark hung on the door. It's also on the doorknob. Debt collectors told reporters that they didn't do it. "They owe money everywhere, and more people ask them for money."

The debtor is a young woman who always wears a black mask. She told reporters that the money was owed by his father. "At that time, my family opened a packaging factory in Songjiang. I am the legal representative. In fact, the company is run by my father. "

Reporter: Did you borrow money?

Woman: I am a legal person. Borrowed, of course.

Reporter: Is there a loan contract?

W: There is no contract, only a loan of 500,000 yuan. At that time, the cash flow was tight and my father found them through acquaintances. We pay interest every month, and now we pay them more interest than principal. At that time, we also mortgaged a Shanghai BMW 730 to them. Now we have to pay back the principal, and this matter is over.

Reporter: Isn't that great?

W: They don't agree, saying that my dad still has an iou for 200,000 yuan. They want us to pay back the principal of 700 thousand, then sell the car and pay them interest. Now it seems to be a routine loan.

The woman told reporters that as long as she went downstairs, those debt collectors would be surrounded. Now she is too scared to go out and go to work. A man who claimed to be her brother said that in order to ensure the safety of the woman, he and her uncle always stayed with her, just in case.

"Some time ago, they would knock on my door every hour at two or three in the middle of the night." The woman took out her mobile phone and showed the reporter the video. You can really hear the banging sound in the video.

Woman: The neighborhood committee and the police have been here several times, and I also told them about my situation. I also know that this will bring trouble to my neighbors, and I'm sorry.

The manager of the property company said that they had mastered this matter for a long time. "It's not that we don't care, but that we can't do it." The manager said they came in as tourists, driving as usual, getting their cards and paying money. Security can't keep them out. "In the past, they would stop in the way or occupy the parking spaces of other car owners. After we talked, they corrected it immediately. " The manager said awkwardly. They also know that the owners have opinions, so they can only strengthen patrols near 109 and set up temporary posts as far as possible.

The secretary of Shi Hao Phoenix Neighborhood Committee told reporters that they also went to the scene to do work many times. "At first, residents complained that these people littered outside the car. They stopped littering after we reminded them in the past. "

The reporter learned from the neighborhood Committee that the debtor woman is a tenant and is still learning some information about her and her family.

"We have never encountered such a thing before. Although there is no conflict yet, we are still very worried. " The secretary of the neighborhood Committee said that there is no good way at present except to strengthen communication with property companies and community police. "This kind of thing still needs to be handled by a professional department?"

The community police told the Morning Post reporter on the phone that they had called the police several times on this matter, but there was no major conflict between them. "If they have some fierce behaviors in debt collection, then we can also use the Public Security Administration Punishment Law to restrain them. But they have no actual actions and no illegal activities. We can only do work for them. "

The police said that they have been advised to solve the problem through legal channels these days, but they insisted on staying in the community. "This matter must be solved. I will communicate with the secretary of the neighborhood Committee tomorrow to see what to do. "

Lawyer Zhou Yi believes that the property management company should bear the management responsibility. "According to the property service contract and relevant conventions, the property company has the right to manage the community. For vehicles and foreigners who occupy the roads of the community and affect the lives of the residents of the community, they can refuse to enter the community or ask them to leave the community. " Lawyer Zhou said that our community is generally closed. As long as it is the property in the community, the property management company should bear the management responsibility.

Lawyers Zhao Qiang and Tang Zhijian also believe that the property company has the right to manage any vehicles entering the community. They believe that the security guard at the door should let these people register in the community, ask which owner to look for, contact by phone, get permission, and then let them in. After entering the door, they can be allowed to leave the community for a certain period of time. In this process, if the other party does not cooperate or conflicts, illegal acts will occur, and the property company should call the police.