How about Shenzhen IBM GDC? Development space, how is the treatment?

In recent years, IBM has been adjusting its global strategic layout. South America, Eastern Europe, East Asia, South Asia and Southeast Asia have gradually become important areas in its planning, such as opening a new command center in the Philippines, building IBM global delivery centers in India, China and South America, and expanding ITD in China to replace the original ITD department in Europe. Among them, India has the largest layout, and its importance in IBM seems to have exceeded at present.

IBM is controlled by IBM China in China, and currently * * * owns three wholly-owned subsidiaries: IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, etc.

IBM China: International Business Machines (China) Co., Ltd. is responsible for strategic holding, R&D, government public relations and sales. CDL and CSDL are currently being compiled by IBM China Company.

IBM IGSC company:

IBM Global Services Company, IBM Global Services (China) Co., Ltd., formerly IBM Global Services Department, became a wholly-owned subsidiary on June 5438+ 10, 2007, focusing on domestic after-sales and technical support.

IBM ISSC/ICGD company:

IBM Solution & Services Company /IBM China Global Delivery, IBM Integrated System Solutions (China) Company/IBM Global Services (China) Executive Center, sometimes called IBM Global Delivery China or IBM Global Delivery Center (China). Focus on IBM outsourcing business and technical maintenance.

IBM, etc:

IBM Engineering Technology Company, International Business Machine Engineering Technology (China) Co., Ltd., is not large at present.

IBM entered Taiwan Province Province on 1956 and Hongkong on 1957. After the reform and opening up, it entered the mainland on 1985 (the same year as HP). It was first built in Sheraton Great Wall Hotel in Beijing, and moved to the present Pacific Century Center after several changes. At the beginning of IBM's business in China, the core team was basically transferred from Taiwan Province Province and Hongkong. At present, the top executives of IBM China are basically non-mainlanders. What mainlanders are doing now is Mr. Fan Yu, who has been the flag of the mainland since 1985.

In Asia, the relationship between IBM and PCCW of Hong Kong Lee is unusual. The headquarters of Greater China Group and IBM Hong Kong Company are both in PCCW Building. In 2006, IBM's Asia-Pacific headquarters also moved from Tokyo, Japan to Shanghai.

[About people who work at IBM]

It is not necessarily IBM employees who hang IBM badges. Blue Express serves customers on behalf of IBM, and also hangs IBM badges in offices around IBM. The IBM personnel MM met in the interview is not necessarily IBM's, and many IBM personnel are outsourced. Naturally, it's not IBM who doesn't hang the IBM badge, such as ISTC Great Wall International.

There are three main types of people working in IBM: regular workers, contractors and Supreme. Among them, contractor is a contract worker, which can be understood as outsourcing, not according to IBM salary standards, and does not enjoy IBM salary and benefits. Suplemental is paid by the hour, and the real IBM people are frequent customers of IBM China, IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, which can be found on BP(Blue Page /IBM Global Address Book).

Why is IBM so complicated? The reason is simple: control costs. IBM's products are sold all over the country. If every province and city set up an IGSC branch, how much would it cost? If the IT market is depressed and the economic crisis comes, what will these newcomers do? This problem can be solved by setting up contractors and superiors. When you want to lay off employees, it is natural. When the market is depressed, let Lan quickly lay off redundant people.

[About the band]

IBM employees are graded according to band, and their salaries are directly linked to band. The band ranges from band0 to band 10, and then up to d, c, b, a, AA, TN, where a * * is 17. The vast majority of grassroots employees are concentrated in band4~band7. In China, the first year of graduates' employment is band90. After a year of pure blue training and observation, grades 5 and 6 are general sales and grade 6 is technical. Because of their high status, Beijing's IBM China Lab (CDL) and Software Development Center (CSDL) started from level 6, but employees of GTS, SO and ITD in IGSC and ISSC/ICGD are not so lucky. They must start from the fourth band. However, some positions without band6 can be directly promoted from band5 to band7, such as SSR (System Service Representative).

Band is also a means for IBM to control costs. IBM has the same salary as band. The band wage standard in second-tier cities is the same as that in Beijing and Shanghai, but there are generally more low-level bands in second-tier cities.

If Lankuai employees are sent to work in IBM, they will be designated as contractors, starting with band3.

The above is only for graduates, and the fixed band of social recruitment depends on real skills.

TN and AA can only be awarded to IBM board members or regional CEOs. This layer is generally called Assignee-In, such as CEO of Asia Pacific, CEO of Greater China (GCG), CFO of IBM Japan, etc.

[About IBM salary and benefits]

IBM salary (MBS/ month basic salary) is linked to the band level;

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3,000 ~ 4,500 RMB for Grade 3.

4,000 ~ 5,500 RMB for Grade 4.

5000 ~ 8000 RMB

6000 ~ 10000 RMB

Band7 8000 ~ 16000 RMB

Band8 & gt 15000 RMB (Band8 and above are non-first-line managers, not included).

On the above basis, IBM China and IGSC subsidize 800 yuan RMB every month and issue 65,438+04-month MBS every year. Year-end assessment increased by 1 ~ 2 months.

ISSC/ICGD and ETC don't have 800 subsidies, and the annual payment is 13 months MBS, and the year-end assessment is also 1~2 months.

Housing supplement depends on the region.

Hongkong, Taiwan Province Province and the mainland are not comparable. In Hong Kong, you can get almost 17000HKD directly from band4, which is equivalent to band8 in the Mainland.

IBM China, IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, etc. don't have red envelopes for opening doors during the Spring Festival, and so does Chinese mainland Port.

IBM's unified working hours are from 9: 00 a.m. to 6: 00 p.m., and overtime (OT/over time) after 6: 00 a.m. is calculated at twice the salary, which is three times that of holidays, IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, etc. Some departments of ISSC/ICGD need to work shifts to undertake foreign projects, and there will be corresponding shift subsidies.

There is no overtime pay for overtime work in Band6 and above.

Business formal attire is required from Monday to Thursday, and business casual attire is required on Friday. Facing customers, the first line is strict, and the second line technical back office seems to be more casual. One year 10 day annual leave, 2 days personal leave, one sick leave per month, plus Christmas, 25 days off all year round, and other matters shall be handled according to national laws.

For business trips in four or five-star hotels, the subsidy is calculated in the currency of business trips, which is 250 RMB/day in Chinese mainland, 330 Hong Kong dollars, NT$ 0/300 in Taiwan Province/KLOC, US$ 47 and 8,650 yen in Japan. Every IBM employee will be issued an AE gold card on business trip, ranging from 1 to 5W.

The taxi fee required for work is fully reported, whether it is overtime, business trip or meeting customers.

The above is applicable to IBM China, IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, etc.

The annual salary of IBM ceo 07 is reported to be 180w salary +500w bonus, totaling 680w, which is less than RMB 5,000 W. Ceos in other regions should not exceed this standard.

[Training about IBM]

Staff training in Greater China is generally concentrated in Beijing (Pacific Century Center), Shanghai (now Zhangjiang), Guangzhou (Zhongtai Plaza), Shenzhen (Liming Building) and Hong Kong (Pacific Century Center). The new employees recruited by the school will concentrate on pure blue training in Beijing after graduation, and those from Hong Kong will also fly in. There are fewer business trips in mainland China outside Greater China, and people who send band7 or above are generally sent. Overseas training is generally attended by colleagues in Hong Kong, and they will be trained in Chinese mainland when they come back.

ISSC/ICGD undertook overseas outsourcing projects and went to IBM Europe (EMEA/ Europe &; Middle East) training opportunities.

Although IBM's salary is not high, it has a lot of training. At the gates of Hilton, Sheraton Great Wall, Shangri-La and Kempinski, people who wear suits and carry IBM bags are basically IBM people.

[About IBM Promotion]

The mainland upgrade frequency band is slow. Generally, it takes about 2~3 years from band4 to band5, and it takes 3~6 years to upgrade 1 band above band5. Band7 to band8 is a hurdle. band8 was a manager at first, but he couldn't get on or off. Because IGSC has accepted many former senior employees, there are many band7 employees who have worked in it for more than ten years. ISSC/ICGD started in 2002, when many band7 managers were promoted from IBM China and Hongkong. I don't think my own band has been cultivated yet.

Blue Express and Great Wall International (ISTC) are joint ventures of IBM, and some management positions are also held by IBM band7 and and 8.

There are fewer opportunities for promotion in Hong Kong than in Chinese mainland, and it is not uncommon for Hong Kong to become a band member ten years later.

[About IBM, unlike IBM]

Many people think that IBM's salary is not high. Compared with HP and SUN, IBM's current salary in the industry is indeed lower for several reasons:

1) IBM's position in the hearts of mainlanders is too high. If you ask an uncle who sweeps the floor in the street, he will also know that it is a great computer company. Everyone thinks IBM is great, so the salary should be high. However, the market competition is so fierce that no enterprise does not want to save labor costs, as evidenced by HSBC Software Development Center in Guangzhou, Hewlett-Packard GDCC in Shanghai and IBM ISSC/ICGD around the world.

2) During Guo Shina's administration, IBM just entered China. At that time, the salary and band set for employees were indeed higher than now. However, after Peng Meisheng took office in 2002, he pursued the employment philosophy of the same strain as Japanese enterprises (he served as the chairman of Japan's ISSC for four years, during which ISSC became the core organization of IBM's global service), so it is imperative to save costs. This is one of the important reasons why ISSC/ICGD has made great progress in the world in recent years, and it is also one of the reasons why the old employees of IBM in China did not leave much before 2002, but the turnover of employees increased from 2003 to 2007.

It should be said that it is a fact that IBM's salary is generally low, and there are also statements on the Internet that ISSC/ICGD is not IBM. In fact, whether it is ISSC/ICGD, or the future IGSC, it should be said that it is IBM, but it is not like IBM that everyone thinks.

[Previous lives of [IGSC and ISSC/ICGD]

Before 2002, there was only one IBM China in China. After Peng Meisheng took office in 2002, he carried out drastic reforms on IBM, opened IBM Global Delivery Centers /ISSC in many countries with low labor costs, and established IBM Global Services Limited (IGSC) on the basis of the former Global Services Department in 2006. Completed the strategic layout of engineering technologies such as IBM Holdings, IGSC services, ISSC/IGDC maintenance and technical support.

In India, the scale of IGSC India Company (IBM Global Service India PVT Co., Ltd.) is constantly expanding. In China, IGSC China has gradually expanded to some larger second-tier cities, and has been or plans to be listed in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Shenyang, Wuhan, Hangzhou, Ningbo, Xi 'an, Jinan, Tianjin, Hefei, Shijiazhuang, Taiyuan, Fuzhou, Nanjing, Hangzhou, Chengdu and Chongqing.

ISSC was first established in Japan and translated into IBM Integrated System Solutions Co., Ltd., which made great contributions to the revival of IBM led by Guo Shina in 1990s. Peng Meisheng, then chairman of ISSC (1993~ 1997), also became the eighth CEO of IBM in 2002. China ISSC was founded in 2002 and has been renamed as IBM Global Delivery Center. The concept of GDC should be introduced by IBM around 2004. At present, IBM has 24 GDCs in the world, including 7 in India, which are located in Bangalore, Pune, Gourgand, Hyderabad (2005), Kolkata (2006), Ai Chen (2007) and Noida (200; ; 4 in China, namely Shenzhen (2002), Dalian (2005), Shanghai (2006) and Chengdu (2007); Other specific locations such as Russia, Hungary, Romania, Czech Republic, Brazil, Argentina, Philippines and Vietnam are unknown.

[About IBM's Campus Recruitment]

The quickest way for students to enter IBM is internship. IBM IGSC, ISSC/ICGD, etc. recruit interns for junior and senior students on some recruitment websites every year. It's easier to get an internship at IBM than to take part in campus recruitment.

The traditional campus recruitment of IBM used to be concentrated in a few universities in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou, such as Peking University, Tsinghua University, Fudan University, Zhong Da University and South China University of Technology. After the establishment of ISSC/ICGD in recent years, IBM's campus recruitment has expanded to second-tier cities such as Chengdu, Wuhan and Dalian. Due to the establishment of IGSC, ETC is slightly smaller and the recruitment trend is unknown.