Can you be a department-level cadre if you choose your own job and transfer to the army?

July 17 Guangzhou Municipal Bureau of Statistics staff answered questions about Guangzhou demobilized cadres and their own work and Guangzhou Personnel Bureau.

The problem of insufficient retirement fee is that the petition for demobilized military cadres to choose their own jobs explains that the reason for not implementing Guangzhou Suifujun [2002] No.6 document is that "adjusted retirement living allowance" is not the same concept, and its connotation and allowance have changed greatly, so it is difficult to implement it as a reference standard. Second spike demobilization continued [200 1] [2002] The benefits of the first army were transferred to cadres to protect their jobs. On the basis of the living expenses of retirees at the corresponding level in Guangzhou, with the consent of the Municipal Personnel Bureau, the Municipal Finance Bureau, and the party and government organs where demobilized military cadres choose their own jobs in Guangzhou, and with the recommendation of the municipal leaders, the retirement difference subsidy standard for demobilized military cadres (namely Sui Renfa [2003] 3/kloc) will be issued from June 5438+ 10/day, 2003.

Our questions are as follows:

1, Sui Fujun [2002]No. Guangzhou Municipality directly resettles demobilized cadres to manage retirement difference subsidies. The subsidy standard clarifies the adjustment of the standard retirees (including holiday living allowance) leading group's "Opinions on Implementing Work Allowance Standards by Unified Municipal Organs" and "Opinions on Implementing Work Allowance Standards by Unified Municipal Organs". In order to improve the living allowance, according to their own level, calculate and pay the military transfer tax, and adjust accordingly.

2, the Municipal Personnel Bureau and the Municipal Finance Bureau, these two departments have no legal procedures, but "the city leaders agreed" to issue the document 3 1 and denied the document jointly issued by 14 ministries. Is it legally binding?

3. According to the explanation of "3 1No." of the Municipal Personnel Bureau, in order to continue to implement the spirit of medium-term demobilization of Sui Fa [2006] No.5438+0 [2002] 1 No.,and to protect their own interests, the Municipal Personnel Bureau and the Municipal Finance Bureau chose their own jobs for demobilized cadres in Guangzhou, and studied the more suitable level of retirees for the party and government organs in Guangzhou. For example, regimental cadres, named "No.31in order to continue to implement the spirit of Sui Demobilization [20065438+0] No.6", see how self-employed demobilized cadres can protect their own interests ":

In 2003, the retirement expenses of demobilized military cadres at the regimental level ranged from 2,000 yuan to 2,200 yuan, and the subsidy standard was1.31under 300 yuan, totaling 3,300 yuan to 3,500 yuan. I would like to ask, what is the standard retirement living expenses in Guangzhou? Please reply!

In 2006, the salary was adjusted, and the demobilized military cadres who chose their own jobs were discharged from the army, from 3,600 to 3,800 yuan, and the subsidy standard was13 1 in 300 yuan, and * * * 4,900 yuan to 5 100 yuan! I would like to ask, what is the standard retirement living expenses in Guangzhou? Please reply!

From 2003 to now, the salary of civil servants in Guangzhou has been adjusted twice, but the retired military cadres in Guangzhou have not made any adjustment! Let me ask you: This is the figure of 3 1 that you said, to protect the interests of demobilized cadres who choose their own jobs. What about you? one

The reason why the authorities refused to implement the document is, to put it bluntly, the document under the subsidy standard in 2003. If they continue to choose their own jobs, the life of demobilized cadres will be greatly improved, and the living expenses for receiving pensions will be flat or even slightly higher. For some departments and officials, this is absolutely intolerable! In other words, the root cause of the "ban" of documents is "red eye", which reflects the short-sightedness of policies and politics of the party and state organs and the low policy of job placement, resulting in wrong understanding and strong dissatisfaction.

Demobilized military cadres introduced in the documents issued by the central government can choose their own jobs to resettle demobilized military cadres in order to better solve their difficulties. In order to encourage demobilized military cadres to choose their own jobs, on the basis of the monthly job title evaluation of demobilized military cadres themselves, the rank (rank) salary and unified military allowance are calculated according to 80% of length of military service base, full salary and total salary. Length of military service's basic policy is to increase the total fat of 1% for each additional year of retirement from the length of military service of 2 1 year for more than 20 years. Due to the unified wages of the whole army, in many areas of the mainland, especially in underdeveloped areas, after retired demobilized military cadres choose their own jobs, the wages paid by local governments are higher than those paid by civil servants at the same level. Therefore, demobilized military cadres in Chinese mainland actively choose jobs that suit them. By 2008, there will be nearly 65438+ 10,000 on-the-job cadres! Visible policy attraction, your own job!

However, due to local wage policies and military wage standards, it comes from all over the country according to local economic development. Therefore, demobilized military cadres in economically developed areas will have less or even far less retirement time than civil servants at the same level if they choose jobs that suit them. In local governments, this will inevitably affect the income of demobilized military cadres in developed areas and their enthusiasm for choosing their own jobs, and can not solve and alleviate the resettlement pressure of demobilized military cadres in developed areas. Therefore, Document No.40 proposes that "in economically developed areas, demobilized military cadres who choose their own jobs will retire every month. The following is the monthly retirement living expenses of retired cadres in the corresponding occupational categories of the party and state organs, and the local government can solve the differential subsidy. " Its purpose is to make the government economically developed areas pay less for the retirement of cadres who choose their own jobs and protect developed areas, so as to encourage and attract demobilized military cadres in developed areas to actively change jobs. However, the constructive and guiding spirit of the document is placed on some departments and officials, which has become a helpless choice and reluctant "clause" for cadres who choose their own jobs and transfer jobs in some economically developed areas. Their misunderstanding: the central government can make up for it, but does it mean that we must make up for it (Guangdong No.324 document "can be removed, and clearly stipulate the difference of subsidies allocated to it") and make up for it, just less than the level of our retirees! Their argument is: their own job, cadre work, so much money is enough, compared with many laid-off workers. We have been back long enough. It's already good. Why do we retire locally? Giving you subsidies is the financial expenditure of the local government, and the central government will not give you a penny. That's enough. Wait. This statement is wrong: first of all, they are laid-off workers who choose their own jobs, and they are demobilized cadres from the army. Their living conditions are that the state clearly stipulates that they can enjoy the retirement standards of the local government. Secondly, our income standard is that civil servants at the same level are not only retired civil servants at the same level as local civil servants, but also on-the-job civil servants with the same academic qualifications. Because of job-hopping, we have two paths to position ourselves and work for ourselves. You can choose to be placed by the government instead of choosing a job that suits you. We chose our own jobs and read the files of Sui Jun Demobilization [2002]. Because of the difference in subsidies related to the implementation of Document No.6, although our own work is lower than our income, there is little difference in the positions of civil servants at the same level, and because we are looking for a job, we can alleviate the government's resettlement pressure through our own efforts. The difference between demobilized military cadres and retired cadres should not be assigned to their own jobs. Let's ask again: If we don't choose jobs that suit us, but demand all of them, shouldn't resettlement in local governments bear more financial expenses for us? In addition, the local government should do everything possible to find the location arrangement, which will bring more pressure to the already crowded personnel arrangement. Moreover, most of the demobilized cadres who need to be resettled are league cadres. They don't know how to understand and make use of the differences in document subsidy policies, and they don't know what great significance and benefits the army will have in resettling local governments in economically developed areas.

Medium-sized files and documents. On this issue, the difference between developed regions is determined by the local government. So, how do our local governments understand this and the difference between the subsidies that can be given? Guangdong Province made clear the difference of subsidies in developed regions: "Guangzhou is the first new precedent in China. On March 8, 2002, the document was issued, which not only clarified the different subsidies given to directly resettled demobilized cadres, but also clarified Guangzhou's management autonomy in any standard. This was originally a very good and popular occupation, which was well received by the files of demobilized military cadres and won the title of model city. Guangzhou praised all levels for their great achievements, but the document was issued only one year ago, and some departments implemented it for less than 10 months. As I said before, "red eye" is a low-level prank and policy, and a short-sighted political achievement.

200 1, in 2002, before the publication of No.6 document, the difference between self-employed and demobilized cadres and retirement subsidies in Guangzhou; According to the document issued on March 8, 2002, the standard of retirement living allowance in Guangzhou at that time was 885 yuan, 805 yuan for civil servants at the same level, and 200 yuan1for sub-regiments (regiments, battalions, and deputy battalion commanders, 735 yuan) to receive the distribution allowance for self-employment. Everyone was very happy in 2002. Is there any objection? Retired demobilized military cadres, plus the difference in subsidies, because their jobs are lower than those in Guangzhou (the demobilized military cadres and their jobs in the regiment were increased by about 2500 in 2002? The difference between the monthly income of 2,800 yuan and the subsidy of local retired civil servants is more than 3,000 dollars). However, in 2003, the Guangzhou Reform Leading Group began to substantially adjust the salary subsidy system for civil servants. According to a clear document, the difference subsidy standard for retired demobilized military cadres who choose their own jobs "refers to the implementation opinions of unifying the work subsidy standards of municipal organs", and stipulates "the implementation opinions of unifying the work subsidy standards of directly under the authority" to improve the living allowance standard for retirees (including holiday living allowance). If it is 65438+1October 29th, in 2003, Sui Caihang [2003]131:3010 yuan, the deputy director is 2625 yuan, and the deputy director is 2275 yuan and 2030 yuan. So in the positive control group, for example, in 2003, the demobilized military cadres who chose their own jobs were discharged from the army for 2,000 yuan to 2,200 yuan, and the monthly income could reach 5,000 yuan with the 30 10 tour fee and the 1 certificate living allowance? About 5200 yuan! The instrument made some red-eye officials quit: how can they surpass our retired cadres! They are still young, and you can get a job! The difference between such a fat retirement allowance is that there are no good retired civil servants 3! ..... So, these two ministries, the Municipal Personnel Bureau and the Municipal Finance Bureau issued a document denying our city? 14 The ministries and commissions and the Organization Department of the Municipal Party Committee jointly issued a document on Strange Phenomenon No.6, but it is euphemistically called: "In order to continue to implement the spirit of [20065438+0] [2002] No.6 Sui demobilization, so as to protect the interests of military cadres who choose their own jobs"!

The reason for not implementing Circular 6 is that "in addition to the adjusted living allowance, the basic retirees' expenses, transportation expenses, nursing expenses, four-day allowance, and various allowances and subsidies issued by the state, province and city, the staff of the Municipal Health Bureau, the Municipal Personnel Bureau and the Municipal Finance Bureau, their self-employed demobilized cadres and petition organizations merged into living allowance in 2003". The representative's conversation, his own job, and the representative made it very clear: where do we repeat the retirement and add the living allowance, you can delete it. However, due to its fundamental reasons, it is impossible for them to implement Document No.6, even if the repeated subsidies are deleted, that is, the part of our monthly income that is retired locally or slightly higher (their answer is that the monthly income of retired civil servants is about 4,800 yuan)! Even if they retire according to the difference of subsidy standard of 3 1, the number of demobilized cadres who choose their own jobs is only 3,300 to 3,500 per month, which is still far below the monthly income of 4,800 yuan (the difference between retirement and subsidy) of the local government. They were vague, didn't give a positive answer, delayed and shameless tactics, because six years passed and there was no reply!

The fundamental purpose of the document issued by the central government is to further solve and improve the resettlement of demobilized military cadres in China. The placement of hundreds of thousands of demobilized military cadres has brought great pressure and difficulties. Especially in recent years, the reform of the personnel system of local cadres has made the work of demobilized military cadres more difficult. The policy of self-employment placement is undoubtedly a feasible way and the future development direction. If you have satisfactory living conditions and envy your job, your job is undoubtedly the first choice for the majority of demobilized cadres. This layout has fundamentally solved the resettlement pressure of demobilized military cadres and greatly reduced the financial burden and personnel arrangement of local governments. However, this should be welcomed in the policies of the local government, but it was ruined on the road because of the red-eye and short-sighted politics of some departments and some officials! In 2008, Guangzhou obtained more than 3,000 demobilized military cadres, but only 1, 4 1 chose jobs, which changed 5% of the total employment in less than one year. It can be said that the policy of self-employment in Guangzhou has existed in name only! Or take a magnifying glass to find the retired military cadres at the same level who choose their own jobs and the departments and officials whose retirement living expenses are "different" from those in Guangzhou. Do you know the result of your red-eye mentality and narrow and short-sighted political vision? Don't you know that all the demobilized cadres you are doing are actively choosing jobs that suit them, and the serious deviation in Guangzhou has led to the failure of the implementation of the central government's policies and has become the grave digger of the central government's policies in Guangzhou? You don't realize that your job is the resettlement policy for demobilized military cadres working in Guangzhou. What will be the consequences of Guangzhou's plunge? If this situation is not changed as soon as possible, the Guangzhou Municipal Party Committee and Municipal Government will face greater and deeper resettlement pressure and crisis!

If the Guangzhou Municipal Party Committee and the Guangzhou Municipal Government are aware of the huge immigration pressure and crisis, demobilized military cadres will voluntarily choose jobs that suit them. It should be a more attractive policy to formulate better files for demobilized military cadres with more than six ranks. However, those imported people are so worried about the work of the vast number of demobilized military cadres. How can they be dissatisfied with the work and turn to the third gear, which is meant to be 3 1?

We strongly urge the municipal government to implement the documentNo. [2002] of the military transfer as soon as possible, stabilize the mood and safeguard the Great Leap Forward in Guangzhou under the general situation of stability and unity.

Some demobilized military cadres who have settled in Guangzhou and are self-employed

July 265438, 2009