Which is easier to take the exam for current graduate students or past graduate students?

"I think there is no shortage of jobs, but there is a shortage of people suitable for the positions..." On March 7, at the group discussion of the Jiangsu Provincial delegation, National People's Congress Representative and Chairman of Jiangsu Sunshine Group Chen Lifen's words set off the venue. Later, Cui Xiangqun, a representative of the National People's Congress and an academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, "attacked": "There is no difference between graduate students now and former technical secondary school students and junior college students."

Two university presidents and vice presidents of China University of Mining and Technology were present at the venue. Miao Xiexing and Jiangnan University Vice President Jin Zhengyu said that the overall quality of college students has improved.

Talk about the quality of students

Graduate students are equivalent to technical secondary school students

The overall quality is better than in the past

Cui Xiangqun: Our unit is also an employer. The general feeling is that the quality of graduates is declining. For example, for some graduate students, you will feel that their practical ability and theoretical foundation are not very satisfactory.

I think this is the result of blind enrollment expansion. After the blind expansion of enrollment, people no longer believe in college students and undergraduates, only graduate students. There is no difference between graduate students and former technical secondary school students and junior college students.

Chen Lifen: First of all, the overall ability is poor. Logically speaking, a college graduate should have the ability to take care of himself and get along with others. But now graduates have more conflicts when getting along with others. In specific work, the practical ability is poor. There are also people who have poor ability to withstand pressure and are unwilling to accept high work pressure.

Jin Zhengyu: Excellent talents always have the same ratio. I think it is difficult to say that the current ones are inferior.

I was one of the first batch of college students after the Cultural Revolution. At that time, the country only recruited 200,000 students. This year, there are 7.27 million college graduates. There must be a difference between 7.27 million and 200,000. There are probably hundreds of thousands of graduate students every year now, so the graduate students now should be about the same as the undergraduates back then. But I don't agree with saying that today's graduate students are equivalent to a technical secondary school student, and we cannot simply make this analogy. I think the knowledge structure of graduates now is definitely better than what we had back then.

Miao Xiexing: The overall quality of college students is still improving, and it is improving from generation to generation. We should evaluate people's quality from a more comprehensive perspective.

Nowadays, college graduates may not have the ability to wash dishes, wash clothes, and cope with life independently, and may have less hard-working spirit, but their computer information skills can be said to be stronger, coupled with their comprehensive capabilities are more comprehensive than in the past. His artistic and cultural abilities are certainly not too bad. He can play piano, violin, and classical music. This is also a good ability.

Talk about the craze for postgraduate entrance examinations

Blindly taking postgraduate entrance examinations is a waste of life

The system has raised the employment threshold

Chen Lifen: Our companies need real skills Talents do not necessarily require such high academic qualifications. Nowadays, many graduates repeat their studies if they fail to pass the postgraduate entrance examination, and do not look for a job a year after graduation. This is a waste, a waste of life. Someone attended a technical secondary school for two years after graduating from middle school and earned 800,000 yuan in seven years. His classmate at that time studied for undergraduate and master's degrees and was still studying, spending 150,000.

Cui Xiangqun: In developed countries, not everyone goes to study for a master's or doctoral degree after graduating from a bachelor's degree.

Chen Lifen: According to the traditional concept of ordinary people, children must receive higher education. Only about 20% of students in Germany enter university, and 80% of young people receive vocational education.

During the 2014 Spring Festival, at Jiangyin’s urban-rural joint job fair, 35,000 positions were vacant in 682 companies, but only about 10,000 people came to apply for jobs. At present, 90% of domestic high school graduates go to college, and only 10% go to technical schools. A large number of college graduates are unwilling to work on the front line after graduation, or they are unable to settle down at the front line. They have poor work tolerance and high expectations, which has resulted in the overall employment difficulty for college students and a serious shortage of general workers and skilled workers.

It is recommended that the country cancel the “three-book” (referring to the third position in the college entrance examination undergraduate admission batch and admission order) enrollment and include this part of the plan into vocational education.

In 2012, there were about 1.6 million students enrolled in "three majors" nationwide. If these students are transferred to vocational education, the labor shortage in the manufacturing industry will be alleviated to a certain extent.

Jin Zhengyu: Whether it is a master's degree student or a doctoral student, we hope that there will be 20 to 30 people who are really suitable for doing research, and then we will feel it is worthwhile. Graduate students also have a process of gradually understanding themselves. It is only during the period of getting a doctorate and master's degree that talents are gradually stratified.

Public institutions, civil servants, and state-owned enterprises have set certain thresholds for employment. For example, they must have a bachelor's or graduate degree. Some state-owned enterprises do not care about their own efficiency or whether human capital is wasted, and even regard the number of master's and doctorate degrees they have as capital to show off. There are institutional and mechanism issues here.

Talk about university education

The responsibility for employment disengagement lies with universities

Companies do not want to spend money on training

Chen Lifen: In our company, I am an undergraduate He was willing to do it even if he was given a monthly salary of 2,000 yuan. I can give 8,000 yuan to a technician who has graduated from a technical secondary school.

Cui Xiangqun: Nowadays, college graduates have lowered their employment, and even undergraduates and college students have come to work as workers. On the one hand, it is difficult to find jobs and the supply exceeds demand. On the other hand, it is because they are not in line with social needs. In line with the standards, vocational education is lacking.

Jin Zhengyu: Enterprises cannot rush for quick success. Although there may not be a significant difference in work efficiency at first between those who have studied in college and those who have not studied in the same position, the potential and development later will definitely be greater for those who have studied.

Miao Xiexing: The monthly salary of technical secondary school students is 8,000 yuan, and the monthly salary of undergraduates is 2,000 yuan. This is not surprising. That position requires people with specialized skills, while university undergraduates cultivate basic skills and comprehensive qualities. Specialized skills also require training over a period of time. If undergraduate students like this type of work and start from the same starting point, our undergraduate students will not be any worse.

Cui Xiangqun: The main responsibility for the disconnect lies with the school. Enterprises can conduct targeted training and integrate industry and academia. But school is a place to train people. You must take the initiative to cooperate closely with enterprises, otherwise the people you train will be out of touch with society.

Chen Lifen: I also think this is a problem with university education. It is necessary to provide comprehensive education such as scientific and technological quality and professional ethics so that graduates can exert their value when they are employed.

Jin Zhengyu: The reason for the disconnect is that the company failed to fulfill its on-the-job training responsibilities. Undergraduate education is a quality education process, not skills education. Companies cannot say that when they recruit a college student, they can start using it right away. Foreign companies have a process of on-the-job training. In addition, there are also big problems with university internships. We arrange internships for students, but companies often say they cannot accept so many internships because they will interfere with production.